Comments on: Mailbag: Glyph Choices for Restoration

By: Phaelia

Phaelia — Wed, 11 Feb 2009 17:26:23 +0000

@Alamein: Ah, good to know. Maybe using WWS myself wouldn’t be a bad plan then. I’m curious about the true overheal from my HoTs.

@Bearess: It’s good that there are certain encounters that tend to favor the Rejuvenation Glyph, and I can see why the Glyph of Regrowth wouldn’t be very helpful to someone focusing almost exclusively on raid healing. An interesting point.

@Rejuvenator: Methinks you like Rejuvenation. Could just be something about your name, though. Thank you for sharing the WWS parse. I clearly need to add more Rejuvenation.

@Archmera: <3 Thank you! And welcome back to the computer.

@Mai: I can see why the 4-piece T7 bonus might decrease the value of the Glyph of Regrowth since, in that case, you'd probably be more likely to use Nourish as your tank heal of choice. Maybe the flowchart could be modified to include this decision!

@Camel: No, I don't think you are. That might change with the changes to OOC mana regeneration in 3.1, though. People may see your Innervate and brush it off their shoulders like so much pocket lint! Unfortunately, we'll probably need it ourselves at that point. >.<

By: Bearess

Bearess — Fri, 06 Feb 2009 18:41:57 +0000

After doing the 25man Naxx ran last night I swapped over to the Innervate glyph. Not because I feel the Rejuv glyph is subpar (I still say it is a good glyph for some fights when you need to quickly throw HoTs on large amount of people before deeper healing can occur), but it turns out that some of our other healers need the innervate as well as I do due to too many brain damaged DPSer. =) And unlike some guilds I tend to be the only druids in the 25man run so far. *SNIFF* Actually, I seem to be the only druid in our raiding party on an average (just one of those bad dice throws). It is SOOOO lonely being the only tree in Naxx... - Ben Bearesss last blog post..January 23, 2009 17:00:00 CST ~ Fur to Bark - A Restro Druid Story ~

By: Dio

Dio — Fri, 06 Feb 2009 05:10:34 +0000

For now I have 270 my mp5 not in combat. Buffed I have ~450 mp5. And I’m still casting my inner only on myself, in all boss fights. I even using macro target=player.

But… we have around 7 resto druids in our guild. So if someone will install glyph… it’s 3 mana pools for us.

Sounds good… non-stop rejuv/regrowth (sure not, but…)

By: Camel

Camel — Wed, 04 Feb 2009 23:19:04 +0000

Am I the only one made to keep their innervate for the greedy arcane mages?

By: Druidenarchiv (by Arilea)

Druidenarchiv (by Arilea) — Tue, 03 Feb 2009 18:53:16 +0000

Baum: Auch hier die Stats…

Der Vollständigkeit der bisherigen Kategorien halber sollen auch die Stats des Baumes noch einmal behandelt werden. Jedoch gleich vorab: Was heilen angeht, habe ich (m)eine eigenen Philosophie. Ich halte die Heilung für eine der flexibelsten und glei…

By: Trismegistus

Trismegistus — Mon, 02 Feb 2009 07:56:26 +0000

Hi Mai, I’m happy to see someone agrees with me. I think the point everyone is missing is that you have to cast the Regrowth on a target that already has one. I have many more important things to do than to make sure I re-cast a Regrowth on the same target twice, even if that target is the tank and my primary healing assignment.

I get some bonus from Innervate whether I cast it on myself or another raid member.

I stand by my original statement that the two staple glyphs for every resto is Lifebloom and Swiftmend.

By: Mai

Mai — Sat, 31 Jan 2009 11:55:18 +0000

I have my four piece t7 bonus, so why would i choose regrowth over my innervate glyph? I tried to have the regrowth glyph, but as i wasn’t specced for it (yes i’m an idiot and took brambles) my regrowth doesn’t do much for me vs nourish.. I find procs on casting annoying and less predictable rather than being of any help to me..
More healing on regrowth seems to me just ending up in a case of doing more overheal, because of it’s very high crit rate.. I’d rather fill my mana pool up those last 10% that it doesn’t because it’s a healing intense crappy healer setup..

By: archmera

archmera — Sat, 31 Jan 2009 05:55:55 +0000

Oh Phae, i’ve been away from the pooter for so long. But let me say, your flow chart was one of the first things i saw when i got back to website. HILARIOUS!
I love your witty humor! Keep up the great work!

By: Rejuvenator

Rejuvenator — Sat, 31 Jan 2009 01:23:18 +0000

Rejuvenation is far and away the best overall healing spell in our arsenal right now. It’s dirt cheap (even with the crappy 2pc T7 change), heals for a ton, and lasts a long time. I use it a lot like we used Lifebloom in BC, but more preemptively.

Here’s my recent WWS parses. Check any of those raids, except 1/27(absent). Rejuv is head and shoulders above everything else in all of the current content.

http://wowwebstats.com/txnaueccuogx3

But the glyph is still trash. And on a side note, even using Rejuv this heavily, Replenish is still worthless.

By: Bearess

Bearess — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 23:21:34 +0000

@Alamein, Recount also doesn’t seem to count over heals as well as the WWS parser. I see more over heals in my WWS data than I do in recount.

As for Rejuv vs Lifebloom, last night I switched things up since we were range heavy (5 hunters in 10man!! *sigh*) so I used Rejuv a lot more (WG just wasn’t effective because the range weren’t grouped up =). I have mixed feelings about both. I use both when I do tank healing. I’ve even started to throw Regrowth + Rejuv on a tank before they enter battle to allow us healers a moment to get placed right (Mind you I said “entering battle” once they’ve entered battle throwing them too soon is death wish =).

@Phaelia, Recount like the WWS parsers will break out the rejuv glyphed healing as a separate line item. I have to assume it would do the same for other glyphed spells. At least in Rejuv’s case it makes it nice to see if it works well for your rotation.

As for singing the praises of the glyph. I think it has to do more with my mentality. Which in a nutshell tends to be “Instance good, casting time bad.” (Well, it isn’t that simple.. but) I’d rather glyph an instance cast because I know my rotation will use it more than an item with a casting time. As a result, for me the rejuv glyph is a bigger win since it will have a higher chance of hitting someone below 50% health (think of Gluth when he does a decimite in how much extra healing that is before a heavier handed healer catches that person up. In 10man it was nearly as much healing as my swiftmend in a normal battle).

Yes, I’m itemizing out fights a bit, but Regrowth’s glyph will not help a group healer in that case anywhere near as well as the rejuv will. So knowing what your role in the group is will help decide on glyphs. Mind you on Loatheb neither glyph will help. That fight is one of those sucky “Healing Touch and Tranq for the Win” fights. =) Thank gawd there is not many of those fights or I’d scream and go back to DPSing. =)

@Averna, I don’t ever throw my Innverate to anyone but healers. In the few 25-man Naxx pugs I’ve ran (before dropping down to 10-mans guild runs) I’ve been told by the raid leader that he/she will call out who gets it. And if a druid needs to use it on themselves the raid leader wants it called out so he can keep track of it.

Besides, in my current 10-man the only person that could use it is a poor hunter that needs to learn how to better manage his mana. =) And Innervating him will not buy us much (even if he is a good friend of mine).

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