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	<title>Comments on: Pre-Raid Gear: Back, Waist, Wrist, Neck, and Fingers</title>
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		<title>By: Phaelia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phaelia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 17:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m really glad this post has saved so many so much time. It definitely helped me pinpoint where my upgrades might come from (though I haven&#039;t had the gumption to play in a number of weeks).

@Beefyheals: I think the Belt of Vivacity is a very nice piece, though if you&#039;re doing Heroic instances, you could nab one of the purples listed under the Waist slot. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m really glad this post has saved so many so much time. It definitely helped me pinpoint where my upgrades might come from (though I haven&#8217;t had the gumption to play in a number of weeks).</p>
<p>@Beefyheals: I think the Belt of Vivacity is a very nice piece, though if you&#8217;re doing Heroic instances, you could nab one of the purples listed under the Waist slot. <img src='http://www.resto4life.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Beefyheals</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beefyheals</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great guide. You helped me save sooooo much time. As far as Waist armor goes, what do think of this one that drops off Volkhan in Halls of Lightening (Heroic)?



Belt of Vivacity
Waist Leather
307 Armor
+49 Stamina
+43 Intellect
+58 Spirit
Equip: Increases spell power by 68</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great guide. You helped me save sooooo much time. As far as Waist armor goes, what do think of this one that drops off Volkhan in Halls of Lightening (Heroic)?</p>
<p>Belt of Vivacity<br />
Waist Leather<br />
307 Armor<br />
+49 Stamina<br />
+43 Intellect<br />
+58 Spirit<br />
Equip: Increases spell power by 68</p>
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		<title>By: Healing and macros - an evolution story &#124; Secrets of Shadowbolting</title>
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		<dc:creator>Healing and macros - an evolution story &#124; Secrets of Shadowbolting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 19:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Knowing full well that I do not know how to play Restro, I start reading forums, I go through  Restro4life&#8217;s gearing guide and I start running regular instances as a healer. I&#8217;m using healbot to teach [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Knowing full well that I do not know how to play Restro, I start reading forums, I go through  Restro4life&#8217;s gearing guide and I start running regular instances as a healer. I&#8217;m using healbot to teach [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sylunay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sylunay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 14:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phae --

Another extremely helpful yet balanced post from you.  I really appreciate your time and effort to help further the celery of the world.

cheers,

Syl</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phae &#8211;</p>
<p>Another extremely helpful yet balanced post from you.  I really appreciate your time and effort to help further the celery of the world.</p>
<p>cheers,</p>
<p>Syl</p>
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		<title>By: Treehuggaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Treehuggaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 03:51:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi there,
I too echo the sentiments of others that your posts have saved many of us a great deal of stress and time trying to look everything up.  As my NE resto druid is getting to the point of the doorstep of starting Naxx 10 runs, I&#039;m at the point again where I wonder if there were general recommendations for &quot;stats&quot; as another pre-raid check (in addition to just gear lists).  Since my guild is fairly small and we&#039;re still building up to start raiding again, I am forced to go with PUGs as I did when I first started doing Kara and other T4 content a few months back.  Having some general recs for stats definitely helps me feel more confident that I have objective qualifications for being in a PUG raid.  I don&#039;t doubt my skills, but that&#039;s a subjective matter...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there,<br />
I too echo the sentiments of others that your posts have saved many of us a great deal of stress and time trying to look everything up.  As my NE resto druid is getting to the point of the doorstep of starting Naxx 10 runs, I&#8217;m at the point again where I wonder if there were general recommendations for &#8220;stats&#8221; as another pre-raid check (in addition to just gear lists).  Since my guild is fairly small and we&#8217;re still building up to start raiding again, I am forced to go with PUGs as I did when I first started doing Kara and other T4 content a few months back.  Having some general recs for stats definitely helps me feel more confident that I have objective qualifications for being in a PUG raid.  I don&#8217;t doubt my skills, but that&#8217;s a subjective matter&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Hamfro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hamfro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 13:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being a father, husband, manager means I have very little time to research this kind of stuff myself which means these posts you create are a lifesaver. Many many many (is three enough..hmmm..nah) many thanks hun.

One thing though, were you planning on doing a trinket one ? I seem to be carrying around 10 trinkets at the moment with no real idea which are the best (I really am that useless at stats etc.)

Oh and I would like to convey that fellow trees shouldn&#039;t obsess about getting something off the list for each slot post Naxx. Some of the bosses are just a case of tactics and some good stuff drops from early bosses. I just got Noth&#039;s Curse which both is cool, and looks cool.

Happy days,

Ham.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being a father, husband, manager means I have very little time to research this kind of stuff myself which means these posts you create are a lifesaver. Many many many (is three enough..hmmm..nah) many thanks hun.</p>
<p>One thing though, were you planning on doing a trinket one ? I seem to be carrying around 10 trinkets at the moment with no real idea which are the best (I really am that useless at stats etc.)</p>
<p>Oh and I would like to convey that fellow trees shouldn&#8217;t obsess about getting something off the list for each slot post Naxx. Some of the bosses are just a case of tactics and some good stuff drops from early bosses. I just got Noth&#8217;s Curse which both is cool, and looks cool.</p>
<p>Happy days,</p>
<p>Ham.</p>
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		<title>By: Tielong</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tielong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 14:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I made my own item weight scale based on my play style.  I like HoTs.  I hate Cast times.

I do this on wowhead.com to see if an item is worth gemming out or spending money on enchants for. It isn&#039;t very scientific, but it does the job for me.

Gem Socket:  1007
Spell Power: 53
MP/5: 48
Spirit: 48
Intellect: 28

I don&#039;t value haste or crit, and MP/5 is a complete waste of item points.  The value for a gem socket is based on the value of spell power*Runed Scarlet Ruby.  If they had SP/Spirit gems in game I may use them, but since they don&#039;t I gem all Runed Scarlet Rubies and use my Prismatics from JC to get my Meta.  I never ever ever run out of mana, and if I ever need an innervate I end the fight with full mana.  I am very happy with my 15K mana pool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I made my own item weight scale based on my play style.  I like HoTs.  I hate Cast times.</p>
<p>I do this on wowhead.com to see if an item is worth gemming out or spending money on enchants for. It isn&#8217;t very scientific, but it does the job for me.</p>
<p>Gem Socket:  1007<br />
Spell Power: 53<br />
MP/5: 48<br />
Spirit: 48<br />
Intellect: 28</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t value haste or crit, and MP/5 is a complete waste of item points.  The value for a gem socket is based on the value of spell power*Runed Scarlet Ruby.  If they had SP/Spirit gems in game I may use them, but since they don&#8217;t I gem all Runed Scarlet Rubies and use my Prismatics from JC to get my Meta.  I never ever ever run out of mana, and if I ever need an innervate I end the fight with full mana.  I am very happy with my 15K mana pool.</p>
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		<title>By: Alamein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alamein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 05:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arranum,

I got the following relative weights from an EJ discussion. I&#039;ve been using them to this point, and they seem fairly effective, though I wonder if spirit is a bit too light.

MP5: 10.0
Spellpower: 9.4
Intellect: 5.8
Spirit: 5.1
Haste: 2.9
Crit: 2.0

I&#039;ve started using the Pawn addon, it takes values like these and applies them to items in-game, in the tooltip. Makes it very easy to see whether something is an upgrade or not (though it&#039;s always worth applying your brain to it too).

I would not claim these numbers are gospel; I&#039;m curious what others think. Here&#039;s the EJ thread: http://elitistjerks.com/f73/t38398-pawn_addon_values_all_specs/

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Alameins last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://pptshandris.blogspot.com/2009/01/introduction-to-obsidian-sanctum.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Introduction to Obsidian Sanctum&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arranum,</p>
<p>I got the following relative weights from an EJ discussion. I&#8217;ve been using them to this point, and they seem fairly effective, though I wonder if spirit is a bit too light.</p>
<p>MP5: 10.0<br />
Spellpower: 9.4<br />
Intellect: 5.8<br />
Spirit: 5.1<br />
Haste: 2.9<br />
Crit: 2.0</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve started using the Pawn addon, it takes values like these and applies them to items in-game, in the tooltip. Makes it very easy to see whether something is an upgrade or not (though it&#8217;s always worth applying your brain to it too).</p>
<p>I would not claim these numbers are gospel; I&#8217;m curious what others think. Here&#8217;s the EJ thread: <a href="http://elitistjerks.com/f73/t38398-pawn_addon_values_all_specs/" rel="nofollow">http://elitistjerks.com/f73/t38398-pawn_addon_values_all_specs/</a></p>
<p><abbr><em>Alameins last blog post..<a href="http://pptshandris.blogspot.com/2009/01/introduction-to-obsidian-sanctum.html" rel="nofollow">Introduction to Obsidian Sanctum</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: aqila</title>
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		<dc:creator>aqila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 05:10:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great effort.

I&#039;m using &quot;Belt of Vivacity&quot; from Volkhan and I prefer it to Girdle of Bane.

I&#039;m using as well &quot;Enchanted Wire Stitching&quot; from Meathook along with &quot;Spectral seal of the prophet&quot; and I consider both the best alternative (pre 3.0.8 patch)

I may be wrong but I think both the belt and the wire deserve to be in the lists as they are clearly ToL items and good ones

Thanks a lot</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great effort.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m using &#8220;Belt of Vivacity&#8221; from Volkhan and I prefer it to Girdle of Bane.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m using as well &#8220;Enchanted Wire Stitching&#8221; from Meathook along with &#8220;Spectral seal of the prophet&#8221; and I consider both the best alternative (pre 3.0.8 patch)</p>
<p>I may be wrong but I think both the belt and the wire deserve to be in the lists as they are clearly ToL items and good ones</p>
<p>Thanks a lot</p>
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		<title>By: Arranum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arranum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 03:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phae,

As an amateurish theorycrafter I am constantly configuring our main stats as to what’s desirable on an item. The major stat’s I consider are +spell power, +Int, +Spirit, +Stam, +haste, +mp5, and +crit. I would be very curious to hear what an expert druid like yourself weights the various stats as, on something like lootrank. Do you have a lootrank template for resto druids? Or would other members of our community like to share some ideas?

Regards
Arra</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phae,</p>
<p>As an amateurish theorycrafter I am constantly configuring our main stats as to what’s desirable on an item. The major stat’s I consider are +spell power, +Int, +Spirit, +Stam, +haste, +mp5, and +crit. I would be very curious to hear what an expert druid like yourself weights the various stats as, on something like lootrank. Do you have a lootrank template for resto druids? Or would other members of our community like to share some ideas?</p>
<p>Regards<br />
Arra</p>
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