Hi Phaelia,

You wrote it correctly in the formula, but you kind of have the change backwards. It used to subtract 0.06/0.12/0.18/0.24/0.3 second off the end cast time after haste, but now in 3.0.8 it ‘IS’ percentage-based. Sorry if my EJ post was confusing. The goal was to show the change. Regardless, it is a bit of a nerf and your spreadsheet appears correct. You probably didn’t even realize you explained it in reverse.

Also you mention at the end of the summary that Gift of the Earthmother scales better with haste which isn’t really true anymore since it it percentage based.

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Haste is a bit tricky when you first look at it. As wierd as it may seem one fifty percent haste rating makes a 1.5s spell cast .5s shorter. If the math doesn’t look right to you just follow the formula and try not to think about it.

1.5-[(1.5/(1+50%)]=.5s

[(1.5/1.3)-1]=15.38%

So with GOTEM you only need to get your gcd down to 1.3s and let GOTEM take care of the last bit. You will need 15.38% haste from gear or spec to get to gcd. So with a few extra points in balance your total minimum haste to gcd cap is 406 without raid buffs.

0 1640 50%

You are saying that without gift of the earthmother I need 50% haste to go from a 1.5 second GCD to a 1 second GCD? (a 33% reduction) Am I misunderstanding the way haste works here or is this incorrect?

Basically, what I am saying is, 50% haste does not speed up my casts by half? I had assumed that it did, and that is very confusing.

Being a moonkin in whole TBC but some months before the expansion hit the shelves, I’d say that my experience isn’t that great but that’s my 2 cents:

As i said, being in a 10man with only one more healer (resto shammy) makes me have multiple roles, being raid healing (loatheb) or be it main healing (patchwerk).Out of the 3 talents i decided to take the Gift (I have about 250haste rating so it still is worth 5/5) and the Living Seed.

I have to admit that I am a regrowth user and i’ve seen the seed proc for rly nice amounts. What the deal here is (and i don’t know if anyone commented about that), that in 10-man situations you feel more safe leaving the tank with your hots after a good (effective) regrowth.

You have lbx3,Rej,Regrowth + the Seed so you have even more time to spend out of the 5SR and/or to attend to the fight and rest of the Raid.

Lastly, I tried to get feedback from my raid members but they weren’t too enthusiastic about the Replenish (used to have that as well in the past). So i decided to drop it and innervate a mana-starved mage , and/or leave the shammy to drop a mana-tide.

PS : I use the swiftmend glyph , the regrowth and the innervate ones, and i have balance up to Nature’s Grace + Splendor (http://armorylite.com/eu/dunemaul/thirion/t)

PS2: Keep up the good work Phaelia!!!

How are these talents and WG worth (counting the 6sec CD) in compare with the haste+spellpower+regen i get from the balance tree?

i find them very weak and only fillers to get WG. (personal oppinion ofc)

i only heal 5 man and 10 man raids and im resto till improved tree of life.

best regards Milkfarm