Comments on: Blue: Nourish may be Affected by Wild Growth http://www.resto4life.com/2008/12/23/blue-nourish-may-be-affected-by-wild-growth/ So many numbers, you'll think you're getting audited Thu, 16 Feb 2012 06:30:53 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Dio http://www.resto4life.com/2008/12/23/blue-nourish-may-be-affected-by-wild-growth/comment-page-1/#comment-8235 Dio Wed, 31 Dec 2008 05:34:47 +0000 http://www.resto4life.com/2008/12/23/blue-nourish-may-be-affected-by-wild-growth/#comment-8235 about "A more powerful spell is already active" I hate this message. It's caused by changing spell power. Just shapeshift into ToL, put put rejuv on yourself, shapeshift back and try to update. You'll get it. about “A more powerful spell is already active”

I hate this message. It’s caused by changing spell power. Just shapeshift into ToL, put put rejuv on yourself, shapeshift back and try to update. You’ll get it.

]]> By: gus http://www.resto4life.com/2008/12/23/blue-nourish-may-be-affected-by-wild-growth/comment-page-1/#comment-8216 gus Mon, 29 Dec 2008 18:38:06 +0000 http://www.resto4life.com/2008/12/23/blue-nourish-may-be-affected-by-wild-growth/#comment-8216 mmmm how to make it useful heal more for each hot on the target? turn it into an instant cast (with a cooldown)? make use of all the talents healing touch does? Stll I have to say I have more fun lately healing on my druid than tanking it's a slap on the face that they removed all our tanking gear but still left spellpower plate in place. mmmm how to make it useful

heal more for each hot on the target?

turn it into an instant cast (with a cooldown)?

make use of all the talents healing touch does?

Stll I have to say I have more fun lately healing on my druid than tanking
it’s a slap on the face that they removed all our tanking gear but still left spellpower plate in place.

]]> By: Zute http://www.resto4life.com/2008/12/23/blue-nourish-may-be-affected-by-wild-growth/comment-page-1/#comment-8215 Zute Mon, 29 Dec 2008 16:12:26 +0000 http://www.resto4life.com/2008/12/23/blue-nourish-may-be-affected-by-wild-growth/#comment-8215 Phaelia, I'm trying to get Blizzard to fix a druid bug. There's an issue where you can't overwrite various druid spells, like rejuvenation or entangling roots randomly. You get the error message "A more powerful spell is already active". It doesn't seem to be trinket or proc related, I've tested that out quite a few times. I've only seen it happen on Rejuv and entangling roots, but someone else said they saw it on Regrowth too. Anyway, it is a mess to not be able to refresh your own spell before it drops. I've posted this on the bugs forum but it seems destined to be lost and buried under the onslaught of postings there. So any visibility you might be able to bring to this issue, to get them to fix it, would be appreciated! Bug thread: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=13909295852&sid=1 Phaelia, I’m trying to get Blizzard to fix a druid bug. There’s an issue where you can’t overwrite various druid spells, like rejuvenation or entangling roots randomly. You get the error message “A more powerful spell is already active”. It doesn’t seem to be trinket or proc related, I’ve tested that out quite a few times. I’ve only seen it happen on Rejuv and entangling roots, but someone else said they saw it on Regrowth too. Anyway, it is a mess to not be able to refresh your own spell before it drops.

I’ve posted this on the bugs forum but it seems destined to be lost and buried under the onslaught of postings there. So any visibility you might be able to bring to this issue, to get them to fix it, would be appreciated!

Bug thread:
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=13909295852&sid=1

]]> By: Moonlife http://www.resto4life.com/2008/12/23/blue-nourish-may-be-affected-by-wild-growth/comment-page-1/#comment-8178 Moonlife Sat, 27 Dec 2008 01:38:11 +0000 http://www.resto4life.com/2008/12/23/blue-nourish-may-be-affected-by-wild-growth/#comment-8178 oh and definitely they need to fix lifebloom. I miss it a lot. I agree with Camel. I rerolled to play a resto druid because of Hots....... oh and definitely they need to fix lifebloom. I miss it a lot. I agree with Camel. I rerolled to play a resto druid because of Hots…….

]]> By: Moonlife http://www.resto4life.com/2008/12/23/blue-nourish-may-be-affected-by-wild-growth/comment-page-1/#comment-8177 Moonlife Sat, 27 Dec 2008 01:25:26 +0000 http://www.resto4life.com/2008/12/23/blue-nourish-may-be-affected-by-wild-growth/#comment-8177 Finally. I wrote a simulation program to compare nourish to glyphed regrowth for tanks and Regrowth always came out ahead no matter what spell power, or crit you could feasibly have. I actually don't even like using direct heals, but it looks like thats the direction blizz is taking us. I don't think the wildgrowth nerf is going to be too big of a deal. If you were using it as a tank hot then shame on you, lol. The only time where I will cry is that boss in naxx where u only have 3 seconds to heal. Wild growth was amazing for that fight. I think it would be interesting for newbies to post a "How to heal as a druid WOTLK style" where you examine each spells usefullness, pros, cons, numbers, and what rotation is good. For example, I always hit rejuv first on the tank (in case i need to swiftmend), followed by regrowth and then 3 lifeblooms. Since I use the regrowth glyph I never use nourish (as i don't have the 4 t7 pieces yet). Thanks for the update! Finally. I wrote a simulation program to compare nourish to glyphed regrowth for tanks and Regrowth always came out ahead no matter what spell power, or crit you could feasibly have. I actually don’t even like using direct heals, but it looks like thats the direction blizz is taking us.

I don’t think the wildgrowth nerf is going to be too big of a deal. If you were using it as a tank hot then shame on you, lol. The only time where I will cry is that boss in naxx where u only have 3 seconds to heal. Wild growth was amazing for that fight.

I think it would be interesting for newbies to post a “How to heal as a druid WOTLK style” where you examine each spells usefullness, pros, cons, numbers, and what rotation is good. For example, I always hit rejuv first on the tank (in case i need to swiftmend), followed by regrowth and then 3 lifeblooms. Since I use the regrowth glyph I never use nourish (as i don’t have the 4 t7 pieces yet).

Thanks for the update!

]]> By: Pookies http://www.resto4life.com/2008/12/23/blue-nourish-may-be-affected-by-wild-growth/comment-page-1/#comment-8129 Pookies Wed, 24 Dec 2008 14:59:29 +0000 http://www.resto4life.com/2008/12/23/blue-nourish-may-be-affected-by-wild-growth/#comment-8129 The change from an unglyphed 3.0.2 Nourish to a glyphed new and improved Nourish would have to be very significant in order for Nourish to be used as a raid heal. That is to say that the changes would have to be so extreme that I doubt that the other healing classes would stand for it. <abbr><em>Pookiess last blog post..<a href="http://pookiesisnotabear.wordpress.com/2008/12/20/and-now-for-something-completely-different/" rel="nofollow">And now for something completely different</a></abbr></em> The change from an unglyphed 3.0.2 Nourish to a glyphed new and improved Nourish would have to be very significant in order for Nourish to be used as a raid heal.

That is to say that the changes would have to be so extreme that I doubt that the other healing classes would stand for it.

Pookiess last blog post..And now for something completely different

]]> By: Camel http://www.resto4life.com/2008/12/23/blue-nourish-may-be-affected-by-wild-growth/comment-page-1/#comment-8128 Camel Wed, 24 Dec 2008 12:38:01 +0000 http://www.resto4life.com/2008/12/23/blue-nourish-may-be-affected-by-wild-growth/#comment-8128 I don't care what they do to nourish give me my hots back. More and more lately my druid feels like an alien not the class I admired so much in vanilla and rerolled before BC in order to throw my green blobs everywhere. I miss my old game of rolling hots like spinning plates, not the regrowth whack-a-mole we have now. How to make this so? Give lifebloom some more guts again would be the dream, give us another fast ticking hot would make me happy, make haste effect the hot tick interval would also help. I don’t care what they do to nourish give me my hots back. More and more lately my druid feels like an alien not the class I admired so much in vanilla and rerolled before BC in order to throw my green blobs everywhere. I miss my old game of rolling hots like spinning plates, not the regrowth whack-a-mole we have now.

How to make this so? Give lifebloom some more guts again would be the dream, give us another fast ticking hot would make me happy, make haste effect the hot tick interval would also help.

]]> By: Cyrin http://www.resto4life.com/2008/12/23/blue-nourish-may-be-affected-by-wild-growth/comment-page-1/#comment-8127 Cyrin Wed, 24 Dec 2008 11:44:56 +0000 http://www.resto4life.com/2008/12/23/blue-nourish-may-be-affected-by-wild-growth/#comment-8127 Would it be so horrible to just give Nourish the T7 4 set bonus as a standard? That would boost it's significantly and make it a lot more appealing. Then they can update the set bonuses for the T7 gear, which are a joke to begin with. In my view, Nourish should have had a healing bonus for each Hot you have on a target from the get go. Then they wouldn't be having to add talents and glyphs to boost it. Would it be so horrible to just give Nourish the T7 4 set bonus as a standard? That would boost it’s significantly and make it a lot more appealing. Then they can update the set bonuses for the T7 gear, which are a joke to begin with.

In my view, Nourish should have had a healing bonus for each Hot you have on a target from the get go. Then they wouldn’t be having to add talents and glyphs to boost it.

]]> By: Nilianil http://www.resto4life.com/2008/12/23/blue-nourish-may-be-affected-by-wild-growth/comment-page-1/#comment-8123 Nilianil Wed, 24 Dec 2008 06:30:58 +0000 http://www.resto4life.com/2008/12/23/blue-nourish-may-be-affected-by-wild-growth/#comment-8123 Caaaaaaaaareful Phae :p I keep running across more of your posts on the WoW forums. The forums are dangerous - Keep it up and you'll slowly turn into a bitter little shell of a druid who hates everyone and everything. I speak from experience; It's too late for me, run while you still can!! ;) I'm more interested in the talent/glyph changes to Nourish if any come out. Honestly, I don't think giving it the additional bonus with Wild Growth will do much at all in fixing why the spell isn't getting much use. Talents along with a glyph could end up going a long way with the spell, though. Some suggested that Nourish could refresh all your HoTs, which I think is quite tad over the top, but I wouldn't mind it adding a couple of ticks onto Rejuvenation. It sorta turns into a mini-regrowth like that, though, which I don't care for at all :p Make Nourish consume a Wild Growth on a target, swiftmending it? I don't know, I'm just brainstorming, but I do like the idea of 'nourishing your HoTs' in some way as another poster put it, but it might be a pretty difficult thing to balance. They've probably got something else in mind. I'm just glad the spell is getting looked at. Caaaaaaaaareful Phae :p I keep running across more of your posts on the WoW forums. The forums are dangerous – Keep it up and you’ll slowly turn into a bitter little shell of a druid who hates everyone and everything. I speak from experience; It’s too late for me, run while you still can!! ;)

I’m more interested in the talent/glyph changes to Nourish if any come out. Honestly, I don’t think giving it the additional bonus with Wild Growth will do much at all in fixing why the spell isn’t getting much use. Talents along with a glyph could end up going a long way with the spell, though. Some suggested that Nourish could refresh all your HoTs, which I think is quite tad over the top, but I wouldn’t mind it adding a couple of ticks onto Rejuvenation. It sorta turns into a mini-regrowth like that, though, which I don’t care for at all :p Make Nourish consume a Wild Growth on a target, swiftmending it? I don’t know, I’m just brainstorming, but I do like the idea of ‘nourishing your HoTs’ in some way as another poster put it, but it might be a pretty difficult thing to balance.

They’ve probably got something else in mind. I’m just glad the spell is getting looked at.

]]> By: Keeva http://www.resto4life.com/2008/12/23/blue-nourish-may-be-affected-by-wild-growth/comment-page-1/#comment-8122 Keeva Wed, 24 Dec 2008 05:59:58 +0000 http://www.resto4life.com/2008/12/23/blue-nourish-may-be-affected-by-wild-growth/#comment-8122 Call me cynical, but I'm not holding my breath - I'll wait to see what they actually end up doing before I get excited. They had so long to make Nourish great, ignored most of what people told them, and instead went with advice from "a few skilled druids" that Nourish is fantastic, don't change it. Hmph. I'm reserving judgment until I see the final product isn't a dud. Still waiting on a buff to Replenish, too! Happy holidays Phae & Mr Phae! :) <abbr><em>Keevas last blog post..<a href="http://treebarkjacket.blogspot.com/2008/12/sartharion-3-down.html" rel="nofollow">Sartharion +3 down</a></abbr></em> Call me cynical, but I’m not holding my breath – I’ll wait to see what they actually end up doing before I get excited. They had so long to make Nourish great, ignored most of what people told them, and instead went with advice from “a few skilled druids” that Nourish is fantastic, don’t change it. Hmph. I’m reserving judgment until I see the final product isn’t a dud.

Still waiting on a buff to Replenish, too!

Happy holidays Phae & Mr Phae! :)

Keevas last blog post..Sartharion +3 down

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