Comments on: Thorns Damage Scaling with Spell Power http://www.resto4life.com/2008/10/31/thorns-damage-scaling-with-spell-power/ So many numbers, you'll think you're getting audited Thu, 16 Feb 2012 06:30:53 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: blake http://www.resto4life.com/2008/10/31/thorns-damage-scaling-with-spell-power/comment-page-1/#comment-9799 blake Sun, 30 Aug 2009 01:24:11 +0000 http://www.resto4life.com/2008/10/31/thorns-damage-scaling-with-spell-power/#comment-9799 I think they changed it to use caster's spellpower now, worth swapping specs and gear to buff yourself if you are a feral tank then i'd imagine I think they changed it to use caster’s spellpower now, worth swapping specs and gear to buff yourself if you are a feral tank then i’d imagine

]]> By: Phaelia http://www.resto4life.com/2008/10/31/thorns-damage-scaling-with-spell-power/comment-page-1/#comment-7505 Phaelia Wed, 19 Nov 2008 21:11:03 +0000 http://www.resto4life.com/2008/10/31/thorns-damage-scaling-with-spell-power/#comment-7505 @Jotch: It's certainly possible that this was added to help Restoration Druids level, especially given how popular Hurricane-spamming has become and the fact that they recently mentioned being disatisfied with the damage output of Druids attempting to level while specced Resto. @Jotch: It’s certainly possible that this was added to help Restoration Druids level, especially given how popular Hurricane-spamming has become and the fact that they recently mentioned being disatisfied with the damage output of Druids attempting to level while specced Resto.

]]> By: Jotch http://www.resto4life.com/2008/10/31/thorns-damage-scaling-with-spell-power/comment-page-1/#comment-7117 Jotch Tue, 04 Nov 2008 18:05:22 +0000 http://www.resto4life.com/2008/10/31/thorns-damage-scaling-with-spell-power/#comment-7117 I think they decided to implement this as another utility for leveling. Mine tick for around 135 at around 1400 spell power, thorns is still useful on tanks. Why would a little extra threat hurt when you are on new content that isn't nerfed? It allows dps to push that much more. Its pretty cool being resto and watching rogues kill themselves when they jump me. I think they decided to implement this as another utility for leveling. Mine tick for around 135 at around 1400 spell power, thorns is still useful on tanks. Why would a little extra threat hurt when you are on new content that isn’t nerfed? It allows dps to push that much more. Its pretty cool being resto and watching rogues kill themselves when they jump me.

]]> By: wut http://www.resto4life.com/2008/10/31/thorns-damage-scaling-with-spell-power/comment-page-1/#comment-7098 wut Mon, 03 Nov 2008 21:10:17 +0000 http://www.resto4life.com/2008/10/31/thorns-damage-scaling-with-spell-power/#comment-7098 HAI THAR. GET YOUR MATH OUT OF MAI BUTTON MASHING PLZKTHX. HAI THAR. GET YOUR MATH OUT OF MAI BUTTON MASHING PLZKTHX.

]]> By: Werebeef http://www.resto4life.com/2008/10/31/thorns-damage-scaling-with-spell-power/comment-page-1/#comment-7096 Werebeef Mon, 03 Nov 2008 17:42:23 +0000 http://www.resto4life.com/2008/10/31/thorns-damage-scaling-with-spell-power/#comment-7096 Paladin tanks get some spell power so it's decent on them. It's really best when aoe farming though. With some naxx10 gear on beta I was getting over 340 per tick damage, it's pretty insane. Paladin tanks get some spell power so it’s decent on them.

It’s really best when aoe farming though. With some naxx10 gear on beta I was getting over 340 per tick damage, it’s pretty insane.

]]> By: Tielong http://www.resto4life.com/2008/10/31/thorns-damage-scaling-with-spell-power/comment-page-1/#comment-7095 Tielong Mon, 03 Nov 2008 16:48:22 +0000 http://www.resto4life.com/2008/10/31/thorns-damage-scaling-with-spell-power/#comment-7095 Thorns is pretty good now for sure, but the damage sucks when cast on tanks. With brambles my thorns ticks for 176 in pvp. With the new tree form I can kill rogues pretty easy now unless they know how to play. I was really curious as to whether it was a deliberate change to thorns, or a change to DoTs in general. Now with thorns popping a damage trinket temporarily increases the thorns damage. Does the same thing now happen with DoTs? If a warlock casts corruption then uses a damage trinket afterwards does it change how much the corruption ticks for? Thorns is pretty good now for sure, but the damage sucks when cast on tanks. With brambles my thorns ticks for 176 in pvp. With the new tree form I can kill rogues pretty easy now unless they know how to play.

I was really curious as to whether it was a deliberate change to thorns, or a change to DoTs in general. Now with thorns popping a damage trinket temporarily increases the thorns damage. Does the same thing now happen with DoTs? If a warlock casts corruption then uses a damage trinket afterwards does it change how much the corruption ticks for?

]]> By: icyslush http://www.resto4life.com/2008/10/31/thorns-damage-scaling-with-spell-power/comment-page-1/#comment-7094 icyslush Mon, 03 Nov 2008 15:31:07 +0000 http://www.resto4life.com/2008/10/31/thorns-damage-scaling-with-spell-power/#comment-7094 I guess this is obvious but that's a bit weird. The people who would benefit most from thorns (tanks and ferals) are the ones who are least likely to have the stats to improve it. It would make more sense if it scaled with Stam or Agi, for example. I'm throwing it on those aggro greedy Warlocks from now on. That'll learn 'em. :) I guess this is obvious but that’s a bit weird. The people who would benefit most from thorns (tanks and ferals) are the ones who are least likely to have the stats to improve it. It would make more sense if it scaled with Stam or Agi, for example.

I’m throwing it on those aggro greedy Warlocks from now on. That’ll learn ‘em. :)

]]> By: crimsona http://www.resto4life.com/2008/10/31/thorns-damage-scaling-with-spell-power/comment-page-1/#comment-7082 crimsona Sun, 02 Nov 2008 00:50:37 +0000 http://www.resto4life.com/2008/10/31/thorns-damage-scaling-with-spell-power/#comment-7082 I tried it, it's scaling with the spell power of the guy who thorns is on at the time the reflected damage is ticking. I swapped to resto gear, cast thorns, dealt about 100 damage per tick... swapped back to feral gear (same buff), dropped down to normal. I tried it, it’s scaling with the spell power of the guy who thorns is on at the time the reflected damage is ticking. I swapped to resto gear, cast thorns, dealt about 100 damage per tick… swapped back to feral gear (same buff), dropped down to normal.

]]> By: Vreenash http://www.resto4life.com/2008/10/31/thorns-damage-scaling-with-spell-power/comment-page-1/#comment-7081 Vreenash Sun, 02 Nov 2008 00:48:26 +0000 http://www.resto4life.com/2008/10/31/thorns-damage-scaling-with-spell-power/#comment-7081 Oh and btw way Phae, it's vreenash of Nagrad (Oceanic) now :P . Transfered a week ago because of work. So get in a timezone where I could get in a heroic dungeon, where everyone wasn't sleeping. I attacked those same mobs with brambles (3 point) talent points. The numbers were: 198 damage 178 off-hand damage. cheers, Vree Oh and btw way Phae, it’s vreenash of Nagrad (Oceanic) now :P . Transfered a week ago because of work. So get in a timezone where I could get in a heroic dungeon, where everyone wasn’t sleeping.

I attacked those same mobs with brambles (3 point) talent points. The numbers were: 198 damage 178 off-hand damage.

cheers,
Vree

]]> By: Thorn http://www.resto4life.com/2008/10/31/thorns-damage-scaling-with-spell-power/comment-page-1/#comment-7078 Thorn Sat, 01 Nov 2008 15:55:48 +0000 http://www.resto4life.com/2008/10/31/thorns-damage-scaling-with-spell-power/#comment-7078 It's a bit of both trick & treat. Treat for PvP casters against fast hitting melee, trick for PvE tanks. The scaling is based on the recipients spellpower not the casters. I'm currently not specced into brambles & I've stopped casting it on tanks as they'll only get 25 dmg return from normally slow hitting bosses. Throw in the glyph that extends the duration of thorns to 60 minutes on the caster and it looks like thorns has become a leveling and PvP option for balance & restos at the cost of been a minor raid buff for tanks. <abbr><em>Thorns last blog post..<a href="http://glyphofthorns.wordpress.com/2008/11/01/happy-hallows-end/" rel="nofollow">Happy Hallows End</a></abbr></em> It’s a bit of both trick & treat.
Treat for PvP casters against fast hitting melee, trick for PvE tanks.
The scaling is based on the recipients spellpower not the casters. I’m currently not specced into brambles & I’ve stopped casting it on tanks as they’ll only get 25 dmg return from normally slow hitting bosses.

Throw in the glyph that extends the duration of thorns to 60 minutes on the caster and it looks like thorns has become a leveling and PvP option for balance & restos at the cost of been a minor raid buff for tanks.

Thorns last blog post..Happy Hallows End

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