Comments on: Spell Power, +Healing, and Coefficients http://www.resto4life.com/2008/09/01/spell-power-healing-and-coefficients/ So many numbers, you'll think you're getting audited Thu, 16 Feb 2012 06:30:53 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Restoration Itemization - Page 9 - Elitist Jerks http://www.resto4life.com/2008/09/01/spell-power-healing-and-coefficients/comment-page-1/#comment-8486 Restoration Itemization - Page 9 - Elitist Jerks Fri, 09 Jan 2009 05:51:49 +0000 http://www.resto4life.com/2008/09/01/spell-power-healing-and-coefficients/#comment-8486 [...] I believe the equation for converting +Healing to SP is: Spell Power = +Healing * 0.532 Source: Resto4Life [...] I believe the equation for converting +Healing to SP is: Spell Power = +Healing * 0.532 Source: Resto4Life

]]> By: Restoration Itemization - Page 9 - Elitist Jerks http://www.resto4life.com/2008/09/01/spell-power-healing-and-coefficients/comment-page-1/#comment-8447 Restoration Itemization - Page 9 - Elitist Jerks Thu, 08 Jan 2009 13:39:06 +0000 http://www.resto4life.com/2008/09/01/spell-power-healing-and-coefficients/#comment-8447 [...] I believe the equation for converting +Healing to SP is: Spell Power = +Healing * 0.532 Source: Resto4Life [...] I believe the equation for converting +Healing to SP is: Spell Power = +Healing * 0.532 Source: Resto4Life

]]> By: Phaelia http://www.resto4life.com/2008/09/01/spell-power-healing-and-coefficients/comment-page-1/#comment-6854 Phaelia Mon, 20 Oct 2008 17:56:55 +0000 http://www.resto4life.com/2008/09/01/spell-power-healing-and-coefficients/#comment-6854 @Primalurge: If by "problem" you mean that there will be a lot more people rolling on "caster" items, then yes, probably. However, there will be that many more items that drop that we can use so hopefully things should balance out. It will be a big change to attend 5-man instances and not be the only person to roll on "healing" loot, though. @Januar: I'm afraid that I don't understand what you mean to imply about mana cost reductions as that doesn't seem especially relevant to spell power changes. @Primalurge: If by “problem” you mean that there will be a lot more people rolling on “caster” items, then yes, probably. However, there will be that many more items that drop that we can use so hopefully things should balance out. It will be a big change to attend 5-man instances and not be the only person to roll on “healing” loot, though.

@Januar: I’m afraid that I don’t understand what you mean to imply about mana cost reductions as that doesn’t seem especially relevant to spell power changes.

]]> By: Januar http://www.resto4life.com/2008/09/01/spell-power-healing-and-coefficients/comment-page-1/#comment-6743 Januar Thu, 16 Oct 2008 11:10:36 +0000 http://www.resto4life.com/2008/09/01/spell-power-healing-and-coefficients/#comment-6743 Don't forget the mana reduction for HT from Tranquil Spirit (10%), Moonglow (9%) Don’t forget the mana reduction for HT from Tranquil Spirit (10%), Moonglow (9%)

]]> By: Primalurge http://www.resto4life.com/2008/09/01/spell-power-healing-and-coefficients/comment-page-1/#comment-6692 Primalurge Wed, 15 Oct 2008 03:39:54 +0000 http://www.resto4life.com/2008/09/01/spell-power-healing-and-coefficients/#comment-6692 Won't this be a problem in instance/raid encounters where we will have to compete with other casters for both weapons and armor? Before, we were generally guaranteed certain items, such as the selection of staffs above. However, now, we will be faced with the age old "battle of the roll" in PUGs. How will this be addressed, assuming that everyone will not be willing to pass up their gear just for the healer? Won’t this be a problem in instance/raid encounters where we will have to compete with other casters for both weapons and armor? Before, we were generally guaranteed certain items, such as the selection of staffs above. However, now, we will be faced with the age old “battle of the roll” in PUGs. How will this be addressed, assuming that everyone will not be willing to pass up their gear just for the healer?

]]> By: The Hunter’s Mark » Beta Coverage Around the Blogosphere http://www.resto4life.com/2008/09/01/spell-power-healing-and-coefficients/comment-page-1/#comment-6040 The Hunter’s Mark » Beta Coverage Around the Blogosphere Wed, 17 Sep 2008 13:22:49 +0000 http://www.resto4life.com/2008/09/01/spell-power-healing-and-coefficients/#comment-6040 [...] from Resto4Life posted a much-needed look at Spell Power, +Healing and Coefficients that covers the sweeping changes being made to how spell-based statistics will be effecting healers [...] [...] from Resto4Life posted a much-needed look at Spell Power, +Healing and Coefficients that covers the sweeping changes being made to how spell-based statistics will be effecting healers [...]

]]> By: Phaelia http://www.resto4life.com/2008/09/01/spell-power-healing-and-coefficients/comment-page-1/#comment-6031 Phaelia Tue, 16 Sep 2008 22:16:03 +0000 http://www.resto4life.com/2008/09/01/spell-power-healing-and-coefficients/#comment-6031 @Treeboi: No, I'm afraid that I haven't. Thaelia is still 73 on the beta server, and the lag has been too terrible for me to do much leveling. :-( I'm sad to say that I don't have particular interest in playing a male Night Elf or male Tauren Druid for the sole purposes of testing Nourish. The Rank 1 HT heals for something like ... 35 HP? It's pretty horrendously unusable. :-) @Treeboi: No, I’m afraid that I haven’t. Thaelia is still 73 on the beta server, and the lag has been too terrible for me to do much leveling. :-( I’m sad to say that I don’t have particular interest in playing a male Night Elf or male Tauren Druid for the sole purposes of testing Nourish. The Rank 1 HT heals for something like … 35 HP? It’s pretty horrendously unusable. :-)

]]> By: Treeboi http://www.resto4life.com/2008/09/01/spell-power-healing-and-coefficients/comment-page-1/#comment-5990 Treeboi Fri, 12 Sep 2008 18:26:26 +0000 http://www.resto4life.com/2008/09/01/spell-power-healing-and-coefficients/#comment-5990 Oops, I'm a day late and a dollar short. I just read your post from yesterday or so, where you noticed this exact behavior. Have you tested a rank 1 or rank 2 glyphed healing touch yet? I know it's still about 25% base mana, but are they really instant cast spells? And if they are instant cast, is the spell coefficient being reduced for downranked spells? Basically, do we have an instant cast, spammable spell, that's actually useful, because at first glance, that looks like the case. Oops, I’m a day late and a dollar short. I just read your post from yesterday or so, where you noticed this exact behavior.

Have you tested a rank 1 or rank 2 glyphed healing touch yet? I know it’s still about 25% base mana, but are they really instant cast spells?

And if they are instant cast, is the spell coefficient being reduced for downranked spells? Basically, do we have an instant cast, spammable spell, that’s actually useful, because at first glance, that looks like the case.

]]> By: Treeboi http://www.resto4life.com/2008/09/01/spell-power-healing-and-coefficients/comment-page-1/#comment-5989 Treeboi Fri, 12 Sep 2008 18:17:22 +0000 http://www.resto4life.com/2008/09/01/spell-power-healing-and-coefficients/#comment-5989 Phaelia, have you done a healing touch vs nourish assessment yet? I just looked at our healing touch spell, and realized that it's been changed from 3.5 seconds to 3 seconds. Thus, talented, it would be 2.5 seconds, and with the glyph of healing touch, it would be a 1 second cast. Holy crap, a 1 second heal! I think that's better than any other healer. My first glance at it seems to suggest that a glyphed healing touch is going to be far superior to nourish. nourish = 2000/1.5 = 1333 hps for 22% mana healing touch = 4000*0.5/(3-0.5-1.5) = 2000 hps for 25% mana (33%*0.75) In addition, healing touch seems to have a higher spell coefficient, which means that at higher gear levels, nourish is going to fall further behind. Have you been able to do any testing on beta yet to confirm this? Phaelia, have you done a healing touch vs nourish assessment yet?

I just looked at our healing touch spell, and realized that it’s been changed from 3.5 seconds to 3 seconds. Thus, talented, it would be 2.5 seconds, and with the glyph of healing touch, it would be a 1 second cast. Holy crap, a 1 second heal! I think that’s better than any other healer.

My first glance at it seems to suggest that a glyphed healing touch is going to be far superior to nourish.

nourish = 2000/1.5 = 1333 hps for 22% mana
healing touch = 4000*0.5/(3-0.5-1.5) = 2000 hps for 25% mana (33%*0.75)

In addition, healing touch seems to have a higher spell coefficient, which means that at higher gear levels, nourish is going to fall further behind.

Have you been able to do any testing on beta yet to confirm this?

]]> By: Phaelia http://www.resto4life.com/2008/09/01/spell-power-healing-and-coefficients/comment-page-1/#comment-5986 Phaelia Fri, 12 Sep 2008 18:04:01 +0000 http://www.resto4life.com/2008/09/01/spell-power-healing-and-coefficients/#comment-5986 @Kalaghan: Whoops. You're right. I meant to say the ten staves with the highest +Healing values. Fixed, thanks! @Kalaghan: Whoops. You’re right. I meant to say the ten staves with the highest +Healing values. Fixed, thanks!

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