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		<title>By: Phaelia</title>
		<link>http://www.resto4life.com/2008/06/11/innervate-good-to-the-last-drop/comment-page-1/#comment-4269</link>
		<dc:creator>Phaelia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 19:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@MeanderingMind: You make a good point. I think I have a natural tendency to assume that people who go out of their way to read blogs, particularly those within their class/spec niche, are doing so for the purposes of learning to optimize their play. But there are plenty of articles here at R4L that aren&#039;t focused on optimization, so I can easily see that such might not be the case for everyone. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@MeanderingMind: You make a good point. I think I have a natural tendency to assume that people who go out of their way to read blogs, particularly those within their class/spec niche, are doing so for the purposes of learning to optimize their play. But there are plenty of articles here at R4L that aren&#8217;t focused on optimization, so I can easily see that such might not be the case for everyone. <img src='http://www.resto4life.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: MeanderingMind</title>
		<link>http://www.resto4life.com/2008/06/11/innervate-good-to-the-last-drop/comment-page-1/#comment-4266</link>
		<dc:creator>MeanderingMind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 17:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Phae

All of that is really easy for a hardcore player to do, but for middle of the road player or casuals it&#039;s a taller task. There&#039;s an implicit assumption of prior know-how. Someone who already has a deep, innate knowledge of the game mechanics involved can easily understand the concept, the benefits, and the steps required. For everyone else, you&#039;re talking mystic mumbo jumbo for some intangible result. That you&#039;re also asking them to shell out time and effort (including downloading another addon, which is a big turn off for some people) doesn&#039;t help the matter.

It&#039;s a different perspective, but it&#039;s an important one for anyone leading a guild or a class to keep in mind when they bring up these kinds of finer min/maxing points to players who aren&#039;t already heavily invested in the mysterious inner workings of the game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Phae</p>
<p>All of that is really easy for a hardcore player to do, but for middle of the road player or casuals it&#8217;s a taller task. There&#8217;s an implicit assumption of prior know-how. Someone who already has a deep, innate knowledge of the game mechanics involved can easily understand the concept, the benefits, and the steps required. For everyone else, you&#8217;re talking mystic mumbo jumbo for some intangible result. That you&#8217;re also asking them to shell out time and effort (including downloading another addon, which is a big turn off for some people) doesn&#8217;t help the matter.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a different perspective, but it&#8217;s an important one for anyone leading a guild or a class to keep in mind when they bring up these kinds of finer min/maxing points to players who aren&#8217;t already heavily invested in the mysterious inner workings of the game.</p>
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		<title>By: Phaelia</title>
		<link>http://www.resto4life.com/2008/06/11/innervate-good-to-the-last-drop/comment-page-1/#comment-4232</link>
		<dc:creator>Phaelia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 01:38:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Yunk: It sounds to me like you may have managed to create a &quot;dead zone&quot; by reversing your Casting Set and High Mana Set. Essentially, if you tell the addon &quot;at 95% I want you to switch me from my High Mana set back to my Casting Set&quot; and simultaneously tell it &quot;at 94%, I want you to switch me from my Casting Set to my High Mana set&quot;, you&#039;ll bounce back and forth. You&#039;ll want the percentage of mana at which to switch from High Mana to Casting to be &lt;em&gt;lower&lt;/em&gt; than the percentage of mana at which to switch from Casting to High Mana. Matticus has a tutorial on the use of CWS &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/01/13/caster-weapon-swapper-an-essential-addon-for-spellsurge-users/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Yunk: It sounds to me like you may have managed to create a &#8220;dead zone&#8221; by reversing your Casting Set and High Mana Set. Essentially, if you tell the addon &#8220;at 95% I want you to switch me from my High Mana set back to my Casting Set&#8221; and simultaneously tell it &#8220;at 94%, I want you to switch me from my Casting Set to my High Mana set&#8221;, you&#8217;ll bounce back and forth. You&#8217;ll want the percentage of mana at which to switch from High Mana to Casting to be <em>lower</em> than the percentage of mana at which to switch from Casting to High Mana. Matticus has a tutorial on the use of CWS <a href="http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/01/13/caster-weapon-swapper-an-essential-addon-for-spellsurge-users/" rel="nofollow"></a>.</p>
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		<title>By: yunk</title>
		<link>http://www.resto4life.com/2008/06/11/innervate-good-to-the-last-drop/comment-page-1/#comment-4228</link>
		<dc:creator>yunk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 21:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can you do a post (or just answer here) on how to set up casterweaponswapper, mainly the percents at which to switch. I often turn it off because there are points where it just goes nuts and starts swapping back and forth quickly, which tells me I have something wrong, like the two %s are too close together or something, but cant seem to find a good balance for where to switch it.

For example, if when equipping my +healing weapon I have 80% of the mana pool that I do when I equip my high mana weapon then what should be the % to switch to the healing set, and what % to switch back. 

Am I the only one that can&#039;t seem to get it configured right? :) I just have to tinker with everything and then break it.

I often just switch manually dragging the weapons to a bar. I used to use ItemRack to make up sets too. And I also agree that it&#039;s not &quot;hardcore&quot; or even min maxing. I even used this strategy for 5-man bosses back in &quot;vanilla&quot; WoW when it was advocated on worldofwar.net forums. It&#039;s great to have a huge healing pool then have some +heal for breathing room, rather than being forced to choose. Why vendor a weapon that&#039;s still useful, carrying 2or3 is no big deal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you do a post (or just answer here) on how to set up casterweaponswapper, mainly the percents at which to switch. I often turn it off because there are points where it just goes nuts and starts swapping back and forth quickly, which tells me I have something wrong, like the two %s are too close together or something, but cant seem to find a good balance for where to switch it.</p>
<p>For example, if when equipping my +healing weapon I have 80% of the mana pool that I do when I equip my high mana weapon then what should be the % to switch to the healing set, and what % to switch back. </p>
<p>Am I the only one that can&#8217;t seem to get it configured right? <img src='http://www.resto4life.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I just have to tinker with everything and then break it.</p>
<p>I often just switch manually dragging the weapons to a bar. I used to use ItemRack to make up sets too. And I also agree that it&#8217;s not &#8220;hardcore&#8221; or even min maxing. I even used this strategy for 5-man bosses back in &#8220;vanilla&#8221; WoW when it was advocated on worldofwar.net forums. It&#8217;s great to have a huge healing pool then have some +heal for breathing room, rather than being forced to choose. Why vendor a weapon that&#8217;s still useful, carrying 2or3 is no big deal.</p>
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		<title>By: Phaelia</title>
		<link>http://www.resto4life.com/2008/06/11/innervate-good-to-the-last-drop/comment-page-1/#comment-4211</link>
		<dc:creator>Phaelia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 21:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Meanderingmind: With an addon like Caster Weapon Swapper, making this swap is incredibly hands-off. It will handle making sure you have your &quot;mana&quot; weapon equipped at the start of the fight and then re-equip it as soon as you&#039;re about to top off (as you might during an &lt;em&gt;Innervate&lt;/em&gt;). With as easy as it to obtain a 3-slot weapon like the Rod of the Blazing light, the only prohibitive factor is the cost of the gems (Blue are fine for most people) and the enchant. At MOST, that&#039;s going to run 250 gold which is 2-3 days worth of Daily Quests with the Shattered Sun. In my mind, there&#039;s no reason not to make this optimization if you&#039;re raiding. If you&#039;re a Resto Druid, you&#039;ll save that much money on Super Mana Potions over time anywho! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Meanderingmind: With an addon like Caster Weapon Swapper, making this swap is incredibly hands-off. It will handle making sure you have your &#8220;mana&#8221; weapon equipped at the start of the fight and then re-equip it as soon as you&#8217;re about to top off (as you might during an <em>Innervate</em>). With as easy as it to obtain a 3-slot weapon like the Rod of the Blazing light, the only prohibitive factor is the cost of the gems (Blue are fine for most people) and the enchant. At MOST, that&#8217;s going to run 250 gold which is 2-3 days worth of Daily Quests with the Shattered Sun. In my mind, there&#8217;s no reason not to make this optimization if you&#8217;re raiding. If you&#8217;re a Resto Druid, you&#8217;ll save that much money on Super Mana Potions over time anywho! <img src='http://www.resto4life.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: MeanderingMind</title>
		<link>http://www.resto4life.com/2008/06/11/innervate-good-to-the-last-drop/comment-page-1/#comment-4210</link>
		<dc:creator>MeanderingMind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 21:00:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Weapon swapping seems like common sense, but this is akin Fury Warriors switching to a pair of ultra-fast daggers for their &quot;Recksecute&quot; phase. There&#039;s certainly something to be gained for doing it, but in terms of effort versus gain it&#039;s not worthwhile for a lot of people.

You &lt;i&gt;need&lt;/i&gt; to be very hardcore for this to be an option, and not just because it means spending time and energy to obtain, gem and enchant an additional piece of gear. There&#039;s a level of knowledge and attention to detail required that tries the limits of even hardcore players. 

The bottom line is if you can make use of weapon swapping it&#039;s nifty, but for the most part this kind of extreme min/maxing is unnecessary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Weapon swapping seems like common sense, but this is akin Fury Warriors switching to a pair of ultra-fast daggers for their &#8220;Recksecute&#8221; phase. There&#8217;s certainly something to be gained for doing it, but in terms of effort versus gain it&#8217;s not worthwhile for a lot of people.</p>
<p>You <i>need</i> to be very hardcore for this to be an option, and not just because it means spending time and energy to obtain, gem and enchant an additional piece of gear. There&#8217;s a level of knowledge and attention to detail required that tries the limits of even hardcore players. </p>
<p>The bottom line is if you can make use of weapon swapping it&#8217;s nifty, but for the most part this kind of extreme min/maxing is unnecessary.</p>
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		<title>By: Breaking the 2000 Heals Per Second Barrier : World of Matticus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Breaking the 2000 Heals Per Second Barrier : World of Matticus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:29:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Obviously in order to sustain that kind of healing output, you&#8217;re going to need gas and lots of it. If you ain&#8217;t outta gas, you ain&#8217;t tryin&#8217;! Resto Shamans have good mileage there&#8217;s no doubt about that. I guess you could call them hybrids. But what does Tim Taylor need? More power! Therefore, I take pride in being the suburban SUV of healers everywhere with Druids as my mobile gas stations. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Obviously in order to sustain that kind of healing output, you&#8217;re going to need gas and lots of it. If you ain&#8217;t outta gas, you ain&#8217;t tryin&#8217;! Resto Shamans have good mileage there&#8217;s no doubt about that. I guess you could call them hybrids. But what does Tim Taylor need? More power! Therefore, I take pride in being the suburban SUV of healers everywhere with Druids as my mobile gas stations. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Lidon</title>
		<link>http://www.resto4life.com/2008/06/11/innervate-good-to-the-last-drop/comment-page-1/#comment-4202</link>
		<dc:creator>Lidon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 13:13:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use Outfitter to handle my weapon swaps.  There&#039;s an outfitter bar, which I&#039;ve filled up with various sets.  Of interest are PvP Resto, PvE Resto +heal, and PvE Resto mp5.  The PvP set is what I use when I need stamina, PvE +heal for shorter fights, and PvE mp5 for long fights like Void Reaver (though sometimes, like for Hex Lord, I mix and match pieces on the spot).

I also have Outfitter set to not automatically change outfits.  When I&#039;m about to pop an Innervate, I click on the icon on the Outfitter bar for my set with the best +int weapon (which right now is PvE +heal).  Since you can only change weapons in combat, it only changes the weapon, but will change everything else once you leave combat (the afterthought concept here is the winner for me).  Once innervate is up, I click on the original set again.

Outfitter even has a scripting mechanism with it, so if you wanted, you could customize it to automatically cast Innervate on yourself when you switch to a given set.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use Outfitter to handle my weapon swaps.  There&#8217;s an outfitter bar, which I&#8217;ve filled up with various sets.  Of interest are PvP Resto, PvE Resto +heal, and PvE Resto mp5.  The PvP set is what I use when I need stamina, PvE +heal for shorter fights, and PvE mp5 for long fights like Void Reaver (though sometimes, like for Hex Lord, I mix and match pieces on the spot).</p>
<p>I also have Outfitter set to not automatically change outfits.  When I&#8217;m about to pop an Innervate, I click on the icon on the Outfitter bar for my set with the best +int weapon (which right now is PvE +heal).  Since you can only change weapons in combat, it only changes the weapon, but will change everything else once you leave combat (the afterthought concept here is the winner for me).  Once innervate is up, I click on the original set again.</p>
<p>Outfitter even has a scripting mechanism with it, so if you wanted, you could customize it to automatically cast Innervate on yourself when you switch to a given set.</p>
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		<title>By: Phaelia</title>
		<link>http://www.resto4life.com/2008/06/11/innervate-good-to-the-last-drop/comment-page-1/#comment-4200</link>
		<dc:creator>Phaelia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 23:49:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Matticus: I think the highest Intellect weapon is the &lt;a class=&quot;q4&quot; href=&quot;http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34337&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;[Golden Staff of the Sin&#039;dorei]&lt;/a&gt; from Kil&#039;jaeden in Sunwell Plateau, though I&#039;d have to kill you if you got it and didn&#039;t use it as your main weapon! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Matticus: I think the highest Intellect weapon is the <a class="q4" href="http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34337" rel="nofollow">[Golden Staff of the Sin'dorei]</a> from Kil&#8217;jaeden in Sunwell Plateau, though I&#8217;d have to kill you if you got it and didn&#8217;t use it as your main weapon! <img src='http://www.resto4life.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Matticus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matticus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 23:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh noes, I&#039;m being quoted! &lt;3 Phae! 

So what&#039;s the highest possible amount of intellect that can be obtained from a weapon? (I&#039;m assuming a staff with sockets and a +30 Int enchant applied).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh noes, I&#8217;m being quoted! &lt;3 Phae! </p>
<p>So what&#8217;s the highest possible amount of intellect that can be obtained from a weapon? (I&#8217;m assuming a staff with sockets and a +30 Int enchant applied).</p>
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