Comments on: Instance: Heroic Magister’s Terrace

By: Vlad

Vlad — Sat, 11 Apr 2009 06:02:32 +0000

Even though im not a healing drood… i would like to say something… for Vexallus fight, from my point of view “im a prot tauren warrior” 16000k hp/ za geared… i tanked him and i took the debuffs from the adds… after 4 stacks i poped shield wall and we raced to burn the boss… right after the 6th debuff i poped my last stand… never died in MGT

By: Phaelia

Phaelia — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 23:58:56 +0000

Thanks to everyone for all the additional tips and information. I know I’m looking forward to the technique of dealing with Vexallus described by Candlelight above.

Re: Priestess Delrissa fight and a lack of PvP experience, it’s recommended that players have such experience because the fight is both reactive and preemptive (lots of CC necessary, random targeting, etc). You can definitely learn to deal with it without having any PvP experience, you just have to forget the traditional model of “heal the tank and anyone else who is incidentally damaged.”

By: Lauser

Lauser — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:01:52 +0000

@Chaendryn: I’ve heard that the strategy Candlelight described for Vexallus works pretty good. The fight takes longer but it should be a lot easier to heal if the group has 1-2 debuffs max. Never tried it myself though.

With the group you described you had: polymorph, sap, banish, fear, sleep and cyclone (I suggest only using it when everyone is at almost full health though). Try to CC the high dmg adds (rogue & warrior), burn down the healers first (Shaman/Priestess) and take down the free/CCed ones after that (with focus fire of course, slap your dps if they don’t pay attention ).

I hope you find a good strategy that works for your group, best of luck to you on your next run

Cheers,
Lauser

By: Chaendryn

Chaendryn — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:07:59 +0000

@Lauser: Last MgT run was bear tank, fire mage, combat(?) rogue, affliction lock and resto druid (me). Vexallus vexed us and Delryssa was a nightmare. Mainly Kara and some badge gear. Mage was a bit crit-happy which didn’t help. Will be trying tips Phae posted above … see if that helps. I’m running x-perl and healbot, so can see who has aggro. Though on Delryssa everyone seems to light up simultaneously

*treehugs*
Chaen

By: Lauser

Lauser — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:11:29 +0000

@Chaendryn: If you bring enough CC and some decent dps then the Priestess shouldn’t be a problem. My standard heroic group consists of the following: pally tank, ice mage, ele shammy, combat(?) rogue, resto druid (me). We never did any ‘real’ PvP (just some BGs for honor) and i seriously doubt that you need PvP experience for that particular fight. May I ask with what setup you’re running heroics atm?

The important thing, for you as a healer, is that you need to be aware of what is happening, and start throwing out lifeblooms and rejuv as soon as you see someone being targeted. The aggro display from grid is great for that. Remember that the cloth dps will get hit hard so act accordingly.

My group is in kara/za/badge gear (EU Server Antonidas – Ecelsor, Xyrus, Magus, Guza, Lauser), we are not running any 25-man raids atm. I was able to heal heroic mgt with around 1.5k +heal, probably lower. Right now I’m at ~1.9k and can even do some tiny resto dps on the trash fights We don’t have any problems with heroic Mgt, a run takes around 45 mins.

Of course, it’s always a group effort. If the dps/cc/tank is slacking it simply won’t work.

By: Chaendryn

Chaendryn — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 10:13:52 +0000

I have a question on the Priestess fight: Comments so far indicate that you need to play like you do in PvP/Arena. What if the group as a whole has little or no experience in that aspect of the game? I know … sounds strange, but being from an RP server, there’s enough of us running around that have never set foot in either a battleground or an Arena.

@vandie: You’re making the assumption that the druid’s group is in T5/T6 or badge equivalent gear. What if this isn’t the case? Should the druid then still learn to play druid or is it a group setup thing.

*treehug*
Chaen

By: Gidget

Gidget — Mon, 09 Jun 2008 21:22:35 +0000

If you get the rogue on the Priestess fight, don’t forget to use faerie fire, so he can’t stealth.

Also… I heard that certain mobs during that fight are programmed to go after certain classes. I for one, noticed that running once on my toy mage, the rogue ALWAYS zoomed straight after me, no matter what we did. Anyone else have anything similar happen?

By: Sydera

Sydera — Mon, 09 Jun 2008 17:17:10 +0000

I have run Heroic Magister’s Terrace quite often, as I lust after the special fluffy birdy mount off Kael. Some things that are counter-intuitive work in there. For example, on Vexallus and to a lesser extent Selin, the tank (if he’s in T5/ZA gear like ours) is the one who needs least healing. I don’t worry about keeping a perfect 3X lifebloom on him. For Vexallus, it’s more of a race to heal the dps enough. We usually have at least one mage who can iceblock out of it. On Delrissa, I play this exactly like PvP healing. I put on all my resilience gear (including trinket so I can get myself out of sheep or blind), and I run around like a nut (hmm, maybe a walnut, if walnuts could run). I make macros to target lifebloom to each of the players in my group, so I can run around with one hand and heal with the other. I play with a laptop on a couch (tiny apt–no other space) so I commit the sin of keyboard turning, but it hasn’t killed me yet. I tend to cyclone once or twice early in this fight and otherwise heal/rez the mages. The best Delrissa kill ever (from the standpoint of nutty) was me, a holy priest with no resilience, a feral druid, a mage, and a prot warrior. The priest died immediately, I rezzed her, she died again, the mage died, and I died. The prot warrior and druid were standing there TALKING until I said “we can still win! keep trying!” Well, I got a battle rez from the feral and we proceeded to polish off the last two adds, ending the fight with the three of us at full health. It’s a fun boss and I’ve never failed it yet with a group. Druids have all the advantages that we enjoy in pvp in that fight. As for Kael himself, he’s pretty easy if you have great dps and terrible otherwise. Some of my groups have killed him, and others have not. I do think, however, he trained our guild a little bit for the real Kael’thas in TK, who surprised us not at all with his gravity lapse. We just got our first kill on him last night.

However, I will say that the worst part of MrT is the trash. I often apologize for being a druid if we’re low on CC. If I get glaive thrown by those stupid mobs, I just can’t keep up and someone usually dies. I used to cause a few wipes this way, but now I’ve gotten enough practice that it’s usually just one sacrificial victim, who sadly has to walk back because I can’t rez.

By: Artorin

Artorin — Mon, 09 Jun 2008 17:10:19 +0000

Ok. Unless they nerfed it there are candle sticks before the stairs at the second boss. If your tank tanks him at the stairs and you have your ranged dps hide behind the candle sticks and kill the adds, then none of the dps get the debuff. All you have to do is heal the aoe dmg which isn’t much without the debuff. This works on heroic on reg (unless they nerfed it) For the 3rd boss have everyone use pvp gear if they have it. The resilience and stamina is golden for that fight also pvp trinkets will help alot I can’t tell you how many times they helped me get a heal off that would otherwise resulted in death.

I’ve healed, tanked, and caster dps on my druid and this is the most challenging heroic there is and is the most fun because of that in my opinion.

By: Candlelight

Candlelight — Mon, 09 Jun 2008 16:33:25 +0000

If you are having trouble healing Vexallus, and you are running with a disciplined party, consider the following approach. It is a bit mana intensive, but you mentioned that mana was not an issue.

1. Take boss down to 85%, at which time the Pure Energy adds will spawn. The party should kill those adds and then wait until the debuff disappears. While waiting, you will simply need to keep up tank and the party member with the debuff.

2. When debuff disappears, take boss down to 70% and kill the Pure Energy adds again. Repeat at 55%, 40% and 25%. (The Pure Energy adds spawn each time the boss’s health drops 15%; they are not on a timer.)

3. From 25% to 20% put at least 1 lifebloom on each party member.

4. As the boss’s health dips below 20%, Vexallus will begin its AoE Overload damage to the party. Pop your +healing trinkets, Barkskin and Tranquility.