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		<title>By: 1200 Techniques &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Innervate and the Arcane Mage</title>
		<link>http://www.resto4life.com/2008/05/24/innervate-and-the-arcane-mage/comment-page-1/#comment-4132</link>
		<dc:creator>1200 Techniques &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Innervate and the Arcane Mage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 23:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Innervate and the Arcane Mage Use the techniques described in Mana Regen 2.4: Getting the Most out of &#8230; With 1200 spell damage and a 20% base spell crit, Frostbolt spam does [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Innervate and the Arcane Mage Use the techniques described in Mana Regen 2.4: Getting the Most out of &#8230; With 1200 spell damage and a 20% base spell crit, Frostbolt spam does [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Phaelia</title>
		<link>http://www.resto4life.com/2008/05/24/innervate-and-the-arcane-mage/comment-page-1/#comment-4003</link>
		<dc:creator>Phaelia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 17:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Kolvir: I wouldn&#039;t say it&#039;s &quot;better&quot; to give it to a Shadow Priest. It really depends on the dynamics of the encounter. I have been known to give mine to a SP sometimes, but this article was really intended to show yet another possible application of the spell that many Druids likely haven&#039;t considered!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kolvir: I wouldn&#8217;t say it&#8217;s &#8220;better&#8221; to give it to a Shadow Priest. It really depends on the dynamics of the encounter. I have been known to give mine to a SP sometimes, but this article was really intended to show yet another possible application of the spell that many Druids likely haven&#8217;t considered!</p>
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		<title>By: kolvir</title>
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		<dc:creator>kolvir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 09:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello,

Thanks for the post even though I don&#039;t get innervates (I suppose they go to healers as our Shadow Priests dont get them either).
Is it not better to give them to shadow priests?</description>
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<p>Thanks for the post even though I don&#8217;t get innervates (I suppose they go to healers as our Shadow Priests dont get them either).<br />
Is it not better to give them to shadow priests?</p>
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		<title>By: Phaelia</title>
		<link>http://www.resto4life.com/2008/05/24/innervate-and-the-arcane-mage/comment-page-1/#comment-3985</link>
		<dc:creator>Phaelia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 18:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Zackoria: Haha ... funny, I get that a lot from Mr. Phae, too! ^_^

@Ghostbaci: Good point about the 10% of the Arcane Blast casts being free! Factoring in the value of Arcane Concentration boosts the total damage output from the mana gained by another 1500.

Using Arcane Power and Icy Veins during Innervate doesn&#039;t specifically boost its value since you can use them outside of it and get the same net effect. Mr. Phae suggested that rather than swapping to a high Spirit 2-hander, that instead swapping to a high Spirit offhand and wand might be preferable. That way you don&#039;t lose too much in the way of spell damage and crit.

@Larisa: Well thank you for writing that! I&#039;ve linked it above, as well. Great post! =)

@Icyslush: I just tested two applications of Innervate and it would appear that they do stack, after all! I&#039;ve corrected the article above to remove that caveat. Thank you. =)

@Crythia: That is factored in above. In fact, pretty much the whole article depends on the 2-piece T5 set making Arcane a more viable spec (which is explained near the beginning).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Zackoria: Haha &#8230; funny, I get that a lot from Mr. Phae, too! ^_^</p>
<p>@Ghostbaci: Good point about the 10% of the Arcane Blast casts being free! Factoring in the value of Arcane Concentration boosts the total damage output from the mana gained by another 1500.</p>
<p>Using Arcane Power and Icy Veins during Innervate doesn&#8217;t specifically boost its value since you can use them outside of it and get the same net effect. Mr. Phae suggested that rather than swapping to a high Spirit 2-hander, that instead swapping to a high Spirit offhand and wand might be preferable. That way you don&#8217;t lose too much in the way of spell damage and crit.</p>
<p>@Larisa: Well thank you for writing that! I&#8217;ve linked it above, as well. Great post! =)</p>
<p>@Icyslush: I just tested two applications of Innervate and it would appear that they do stack, after all! I&#8217;ve corrected the article above to remove that caveat. Thank you. =)</p>
<p>@Crythia: That is factored in above. In fact, pretty much the whole article depends on the 2-piece T5 set making Arcane a more viable spec (which is explained near the beginning).</p>
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		<title>By: Crythia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crythia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 17:28:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t forget to factor in that the t5 bonus also increases mana cost of AB by 20%.  Second, don&#039;t encourage mages to burn all their mana at the beginning of a fight to use innervate more in a fight, we all know what happens to Mr. Phae when he goes all out at the start. :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t forget to factor in that the t5 bonus also increases mana cost of AB by 20%.  Second, don&#8217;t encourage mages to burn all their mana at the beginning of a fight to use innervate more in a fight, we all know what happens to Mr. Phae when he goes all out at the start. <img src='http://www.resto4life.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Icyslush</title>
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		<dc:creator>Icyslush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 14:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;It’s important to coordinate the use of Innervate to avoid two people giving it to the same person simultaneously. Not only does the effect not stack, but even if it did, it might actually be overkill

Er... did this change? I haven&#039;t looked at it in a while but I remember testing this way back in the days of Molten Core and Innervates did stack then. Or is this just another sign of my senility?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;It’s important to coordinate the use of Innervate to avoid two people giving it to the same person simultaneously. Not only does the effect not stack, but even if it did, it might actually be overkill</p>
<p>Er&#8230; did this change? I haven&#8217;t looked at it in a while but I remember testing this way back in the days of Molten Core and Innervates did stack then. Or is this just another sign of my senility?</p>
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		<title>By: Larísa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larísa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 07:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, thank you, thank you (from an arcane mage :))

I never ever ask for innervates but I think I&#039;ll do from now on. Just wrote a post about it on my blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, thank you, thank you (from an arcane mage <img src='http://www.resto4life.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> )</p>
<p>I never ever ask for innervates but I think I&#8217;ll do from now on. Just wrote a post about it on my blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Ghostboci</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ghostboci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 06:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a tree as main, and leveling a mage alt, this article is a salvation from the constant comments of guildies &quot;Spirit for mage?! Don&#039;t be a noob!&quot;. So thanks!

I would only comment, that the bonus from innervate is 12% more, since 10% of the arcane blasts are free, and has 30% bonus crit chance with 75% crit damage. During innervate, the damage can further increased by using Arcane Power and Presence of Mind cooldowns. When low on mana the mage can also switch to a high-spirit weapon, most probably a Kara-level healerstaff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a tree as main, and leveling a mage alt, this article is a salvation from the constant comments of guildies &#8220;Spirit for mage?! Don&#8217;t be a noob!&#8221;. So thanks!</p>
<p>I would only comment, that the bonus from innervate is 12% more, since 10% of the arcane blasts are free, and has 30% bonus crit chance with 75% crit damage. During innervate, the damage can further increased by using Arcane Power and Presence of Mind cooldowns. When low on mana the mage can also switch to a high-spirit weapon, most probably a Kara-level healerstaff.</p>
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		<title>By: Zackoria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zackoria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 03:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to get alot of &quot;I love you Zack!&quot; over vent from our gnome mage on Karathress. ^_^</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to get alot of &#8220;I love you Zack!&#8221; over vent from our gnome mage on Karathress. ^_^</p>
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