Comments on: Ammeli vs. Illidari Council

By: Onedozeneggs

Onedozeneggs — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 03:26:11 +0000

yes, i am, too interested in your UI setup, as i recently got a new computer, and, thus need new mods, i know a few are mappy and grid, that you have, but what are the others?

By: Felaris

Felaris — Sun, 18 May 2008 17:19:02 +0000

Ammeli, I really liked your UI set-up. If you wouldn’t mind could you please tell use what mods/UI you use for healing?

By: Ammeli

Ammeli — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 13:23:09 +0000

3k overheal to open, yes, so i have all 3 hots stacked before i move to my position I dont care about the mana as i ahve more than enough.

By: Willzar

Willzar — Sun, 27 Apr 2008 17:34:04 +0000

3k overheal to open???

By: Treibh

Treibh — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 03:41:09 +0000

Ammeli, I don’t think anyone (well ok, most people) are saying you did a bad job. I just think that unless you were the 3rd or 4th resto druid in the raid then you weren’t being used to your fullest. Three of the four tanks are taking consistent incoming damage, and the 4th is taking consistent incoming damage about half the time. This fight is tailor-made for a resto druid to be rolling on multiple tanks and you can put out amazing HPS while doing so while remaining very mana efficient.

By: Saba

Saba — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 02:43:43 +0000

Had a great time on Council myself. We killed Shahraz this week and headed right over and downed Council that night too.

Our positioning allowed me to pretty much roll Blooms on the Mage, Priest, and Paladin tanks, and use my free GCD to raid heal or assist on the Rogue tank.

I pretty much broke the healing meters. I didn’t have much trouble dodging anything and staying in range as long as other people don’t stack on you.

The design of the fight lends itself amazingly well to resto druid healing meters cheesing.

By: Ammeli

Ammeli — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 01:56:11 +0000

@Falina: Seems you watched the video in stream only
I am having 3x rolling Lifebloom on the tank 100% of the fight, i keep Rejuvenation up nearly 100%, AND i use regrowth in this fight, the points of me Precasting R10 HT INBETWEEN refreshing those 3 hots(and very very rarely letting LB run out) is that only those 3 + the healing from the only other healer on the tank, in this case the priest, wouldnt be neough to keep the tank up.

So, while i understand different opinions about how a resto druid should be used in this fight, if i am assigned to heal the Maintank, and ONLY the maintank, i think i did the best possible job, stacking all hots and precasting HT between LB timers.

The only thing i noticed when watchign this video was that i wasnt using Swiftmend to its best potential all teh time

And yes, i am specced 0/0/61, and this is one of the very very rare fights you see me using HT.

By: Falina

Falina — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 21:52:28 +0000

@ Meanee: I feel sorry for you, enjoy your travels in the world of azeroth. And please keep you secret uber strat and WWs parse to yourself, we are not worthy.

Seriously, after the first sentence of your comment I felt I had somehow been transported to the WoW forum garbage dump. One reason I read this blog often is because it is well written and constructive, you my friend have spoiled this thread with your foul comments.

(p.s.: I was able to do 35% of the healing on IC without ToL)

@ Ammeli: While I understand your strat of using HT, I strongly suggest using regrowth combined with a rejuv and/or lifebloom, the return is going to be equivalent if not bigger depending on your spell crit and will leave you with more time and mana to raid heal also.
Also, do you have 60 points in Resto to make your HT more powerful if you are going to use it?

By: Ammeli

Ammeli — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:18:41 +0000

@Kalaghan:

That video was made when we had one Paladin in the raid, and he was retri
The Illidan video will be even without a pala

By: Kalaghan

Kalaghan — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 19:44:33 +0000

Just my two cents to throw in here…I know it’s opinion, but I think you’re severely hampering the utility you get from your druids in this fight by going with HT. When I heal this fight, I am primary healer for both the rogue and priest tank, and keep a LB stack up on the Pally tank as well whenever I can keep him in range. We have a COH priest devoted to raid healing who helps pick up the heals on the rogue/priest tanks if it looks like I need it. I stay in ToL the entire time (and I haven’t gotten around to Boar’s Speed yet). I generally finish the fight with around 70% of the healing on the priest/rogue tanks and 35% of the healing on the pally tank.

This is often regarded as THE druid healing fight of BC (personally, I put Akama up there too since we run it with 4 tanks). This is a fight where our ability to hot multiple tanks allows us to absolutely blow other healers out of the water, and if you’re spamming HT you’re missing a golden opportunity. It might work, but it is undoubtedly (imo) less efficient and not optimized for the fight. Druids more so than any other healer need to fill their niche roll and be utilized properly to earn their raid spots. The way Ammeli is being used, well, the ‘poor man’s pally’ argument comes to mind.

Edit: I do agree with you though Ammeli. We are even less suited to raid healing. Druids are too slow to reactively heal on a fight with this kind of burst potential that can hit anyone in the raid, so at least you’re better off with pre-cast HTs than reactive LBs that are going to take 7 seconds to top off low raid members.

Edit Again: Haha…you updated the post above me! Given that you’re short pallies to begin with the HT thing doesn’t seem nearly as bad now. But I’d just caution that people who read this guide should be aware that was a factor in determining heal assignments.