Resurrection Sickness to Resurrection Fitness
Published on March 6, 2008 by Phaelia
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Dear Drunken-Priest-who-was-Soulstoned,
Of all our fallen guildmates, thank you for rezzing me first. However, for future reference Druids still cannot cast out of combat resurrection. Therefore, you should rez someone else first. No, no … not the Warrior. How about that nice Paladin instead?
Your friend,
The Tree
Seriously, though. Those of you with the Resurrection spell, please take a moment to consider the order in which you help resurrect the raid. An efficient cycle can greatly help speed your raid’s recovery efforts and, when learning new content, can earn you an extra attempt over the course of the evening. If I were ever given an out of combat resurrection spell, this is the order I would prefer:
- Other people who can help you rez. This includes Priests, Paladins, and Shamans. Yes, even the Retribution Paladin. He might be rezzing from his spellbook, but he can still rez.
- Druids. We have to rebuff Mark of the Wild (only because people complain if we don’t). Our HoTs are cheap and can help raidmates get topped off, allowing you to focus on rezzing rather than healing. Plus, depending upon how soon she expects to need it, you might even get her Innervate.
- Mages. These guys need to drink so they can rebuff Arcane Intellect.
- Warlocks. Despite not having a group buff, Warlocks have a lot of preliminary maintenance to perform before they can click "ready." Pet summoning, Sacrifice or Soul Link, Fel Armor, a round or two of Healthstones, and sometimes even a fresh Soulstone.
- Hunters. Not only do they have mana and health to regenerate, but they have to resurrect and feed their pet companion.
- Warriors. These guys just swap stance and are ready to go. You may have to yell out over voice chat at any Fury Warriors as they tend to have the attention span of a gnat. Whatever you do, don’t rez them first. If you do, they’ll probably be dead again by the time you’re done.
- Rogues.
Slightly higher priority than Warriors because they have to reapply poisons.Thanks to Aurik, I now know that poisons last through death. Rez these guys last. They’re just going to stealth up and wonder why they didn’t get group buffs.
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By now, you’ve almost certainly heard about the change to itemization whereby the +Healing and +Spell Damage stats are being retired for the less specialized Spell Power stat. What, exactly does this mean, though, and what can you expect at the release of Patch 3.0?
That was absolutely hilarious! And yet oh so true. I liked the order you posted.
I’ve noticed in some groups (5-mans) that if something stupid I did caused the wipe, there’s this unwritten rule that I get rezzed last. Fair, I guess.
LOL – I try and be efficent when rezing – not quite as to the letter of the list – its more who’s body is the closest to start with – But the above is moot point when even after you rez another rezzer with enough Mana to do at least 1 or 2 of their own rezzes. they sit down and drink to full while you get back to rezing.. and then when its over your the only one with no Mana
Since when did we rez fury warriors? As far as I know, we don’t even HAVE any of those fools.
I probably shouldn’t do my brother and sister rogues the disservice of pointing out that rogue’s poisons don’t expire on death (like sharpening stones, mana oils etc.) and so don’t require any time to put them on after rezzing. With them lasting an hour, now, I usually end up doing them between pulls a few minutes before they actually run out.
Nice post, though. I’d really like to see an out of combat res for druids – I know a lot of people doing 5-mans who’d try to get anyone else to heal just because of that one thing
Silly Rezzers. Will they ever learn? I was totally thinking about that the other night. Okay, multiple nights. Especially when I was on my husband’s pally and was using my rez to raise the deaders. ^_^ Man, I felt special. I obviously rezzed the other rezzers first though.
@Crythia: there’s a fury warrior in my guild, and he’s a damn happy warrior, getting all his epixx for minimum DKP while I have to bid against 2-3 other resto druids =_=
I really hate fury warriors. Always the first to die, kinda lame dps even with top gear and always bitching about a combat ress…
Fortunately we have lots of druids, but those damn defender tokens are so hard to get with so many people wanting them…
Anwyay on the matter of ressing out of combat in raids it really does make a difference. We are currenlty wipefesting Kael’thas and saving 2-3 minutes each time really makes a diffenece saving about half an hour or more in total for extra tries.
Oh and guys if u die on TK trash just run back as fast as you can. The corpse-run is really fast and you are saving valuable time.
The same applies in normal/heroic instances in case the resser dies… DO NOT wait for a ress unless u kindly asked for one first and the resser is ok with it… Still consumes extra time though…
hehe, I loved that “your friend, The Tree.”
Dumb statement following:
Wulfa plays a level 22 druid and I’ve seen her ress people when we weren’t necessarily in combat. Now I’m a dumb orc and might be remebering things funny but don’t druids have an out of combat heal.
Bah sick orc.
I meant out of combat rezz.
Out of combat heal is stupidly obvious.
This is a serious pet peeve of mine. At the very least, I feel like it should be obvious that the order of priority is rezzers>buffers>mana users>everyone else. Yet, I’m a shadow priest and often have to suffer the indignity of watching the guild’s warriors rezzed before me, while I sit there wailing to myself, “I can help you rez! I need to cast buffs! I hate warriors!” Although on that note, I actually do rez warriors ahead of rogues. First, it’s good to have a tank up in case someone pulls something. Second, tanks have a slight tendency to have tender egos which could be bruised if they are rezzed last.
Considering that I ran a pug (sigh) in SFK with my alt the other day that included a fury warrior, that last part is awesome. A level 24 fury warrior, wearing level 14 gear, who apparently doesn’t know what the word “mana” means. He caused 1 full wipe and 1 partial, then couldn’t understand why the priest refused to res him and made him run back.
In our guild there is another thing you have to take into consideration. “Rez the parent before you rez the child.”
If both are not on the “Other people… rez” list the parent always gets rezzed first because the child will do unspeakable things to the parents face down body. Regardless of class, mana consumption, etc…
If your priest is drunk while raiding, I would worry that you have bigger concerns than a stupid rez order. >_> Or is it one of those “Drunken Master” prodigy priests who can’t heal for crap if he’s sober?
Scared,
~Rhoelyn
@ Dammy, Druids get 1 rez every 30 minutes… whether it is in combat or out of combat. It also requires mats.
@Stale, It’s 20 minutes now. People seem to forget that a lot, even other druids. Every time my feral fiance has to rez he says, “oh, whoa, it’s 20 minutes now.” This has happened no less than three times now. I happen to really notice the difference.
great post! seems like common sense (and it’s the pattern I tend to follow when I’m playing a rezzer), but it’s mind blowing how often I see the tank get the first rez
pssh. i want to be rezzed first so i can stealth and go afk for the next 10 minutes.
I like using my Rebirth at the end of the night when the raid is done and we just wiped on a learning boss. I usually go for the main tank/raid leader out of respect (and i feel bad for those plate wearer repair bills).
@Brandon Tilley: I’d say that’s a pretty good rule to observe.
@PugnaciousPriest: I generally see other rezzed rezzers sit down to drink to full so they can rez without stopping. Maybe it’s better to have people rezzing in shifts anyway. But I can see how it would be irksome. ^_^
@Crythia: Grim is going back Fury soon… I actually didn’t realize he was Arms until last night.
@Aurik: AH-HA! I did not know that! I will adjust my list accordingly. Ty, sir. And, as you probably can tell, I too would love to see an out of combat rez for me … well, and other Druids too, I suppose.
@Auryann: I have never known the pleasures of rezzing people after a wipe. /jealous I generally alt tab and browse my reader until I hear the rez box pop up.
@Ermengol: Auryann and I are guilded together, but it’s been rare lately that we’ve been in the same raid at the same time. So, were items of a Restoration Druid nature to drop, there wouldn’t be too much competition for either of us (although we’re usually pretty good about passing to each other when it’s a more signficant upgrade for one of us). Of course, that would require Resto Druid appropriate items to DROP which, of late, they have not.
@Dyera: That signature actually has special signficance. The Drunken Priest referred to in my address is an awesome guy that I’ve been guilded with and raiding with for more than 18 months. About 6 months ago, he asks over voice chat “How are you specced, Phaelia?” to which I could only think to respond, “I’m a Tree. I’m standing here as a Tree. How do you think I’m specced?” My rezzes have a link to my blog in them! How can someone mistake me for anything BUT Restoration!
@Dimitris: Our sometimes-Arms-sometimes-Fury Warrior does incredible DPS. He doesn’t have an aggro dump though, so I anticipate having to throw him HoTs at the beginning of most fights so the tank can establish aggro over him. And, yes, he often gets my battle rez because I can see by the meters how much of a contribution he’s making. GREAT point about TK.
@Dammerung: Stale and Dru explains things well in the comments below yours. Basically, a rez on a cooldown means you can’t pick up more than one person after a wipe and so are likely to reserve it for an “emergency” when someone dies during a boss encounter. I was so happy last night when my Rebirth allowed us to complete an attempt on a ZA boss last night (the one with all the friends).
@Tiv: LOL … I have a Shaman friend in my guild who complains quite vociferously to me when Warriors are rezzed before she is. Half the time I end up sending tells to the people doing the rezzing to get her up before they cause her an aneurysm. And great point about having at least one tank up early on.
@Evil Sheep: Ouch! I’m happy to say that I’ve only PUGged once, and that was a Deadmines run on an alt character. That was enough of an experience for me to NEVER. DO. EET. AGAIN!
@Dave: Oh my … I’m not sure what to say about that. LOL.
@Rhoelyn: You are, of course, right. Drinking while raiding? Inconceivable!! >.> <.<
@Doomilias: To poo, no doubt. And then blog about it afterwards!
@Jazzy: I wouldn’t mind rezzing someone at the end of the raid, but only with Rank 1 (for which I carry reagents). 50 silver is a LOT of money when you consider your average repair bill. Last night I went through 6 acorns. /cry
Heh. Is most funny.
Whenever we wipe in BT there’s a fun game of everyone targeting the ressers and cycling through them to see who they in turn are targeting for resses. When I’m ressing, I like to see how many ressing-people the dead person I have targeted have to go through before they get to me. (As in ‘Oooh, he picked me on the first try’ or ‘Nope, Elen’s busy ressing Chiara, nope, not Gomez, he’s taking the paladins one by one, nope, Mires is out of mana and isn’t ressing anybody right now, ah there you go, you found me!’)
Yes I have odd hobbies, why do you ask? >__>
@MBB: See, in my raid I get tells from rezzers “Wth? Why did you get rezzed first?” Your game sounds much more complicated, especially when drinking. Also, your Gravatar looks delicious.