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	<title>Comments on: PTR Report: 4-Piece Set Bonus Changes</title>
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		<title>By: Phaelia</title>
		<link>http://www.resto4life.com/2008/02/15/ptr-report-4-piece-set-bonus-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-2687</link>
		<dc:creator>Phaelia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 16:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Runycat: For the Arena Druids who really threw themselves into it wholeheartedly, carefully selecting their partner and playing hours and hours to reach 2000+ ratings, the speed bonus was really huge. I know the week that I got mine, we probably jumped 100 points (we were quite up and down, however; I don&#039;t make the pretense that I was one of the aforementioned uber-Druids). It&#039;s going to have a tremendous impact on the Druids who were at the top since their strategy involves a lot of running around.

I also prefer MMO-Champion; they seem more professional. But I&#039;m not shy about checking both for information! :-D I can&#039;t wait to see the ready-for-writing product (they&#039;re never &quot;finished&quot;) for your blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Runycat: For the Arena Druids who really threw themselves into it wholeheartedly, carefully selecting their partner and playing hours and hours to reach 2000+ ratings, the speed bonus was really huge. I know the week that I got mine, we probably jumped 100 points (we were quite up and down, however; I don&#8217;t make the pretense that I was one of the aforementioned uber-Druids). It&#8217;s going to have a tremendous impact on the Druids who were at the top since their strategy involves a lot of running around.</p>
<p>I also prefer MMO-Champion; they seem more professional. But I&#8217;m not shy about checking both for information! <img src='http://www.resto4life.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' />  I can&#8217;t wait to see the ready-for-writing product (they&#8217;re never &#8220;finished&#8221;) for your blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Runycat</title>
		<link>http://www.resto4life.com/2008/02/15/ptr-report-4-piece-set-bonus-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-2675</link>
		<dc:creator>Runycat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 16:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Kaymoo

I&#039;ll be the first one to admit that I&#039;m certainly not the best resto PvP druid, but I can&#039;t imagine that the loss of the 15% movement speed will be critical. As the veritable swing-man of my guild (feral gone resto gone feral gone resto), I never actually had the four piece bonus--I&#039;m stuck with 3 Merciless Dragonhide pieces and  three Vengeful Kodohide pieces. The bad situations I&#039;ve gotten myself into during arena matches hardly would have been fixed with a quick LOL and a hop into travel form. Regardless though, I see this as less of a &quot;nerf&quot; and more of adding insult to injury. We lose something that was, at least, occasionally useful, and gain a healing &quot;bonus&quot; instead--one that we never use. While I was initially perplexed as to why any half-way intelligent designer at Blizzard would make that change, the message is more than clear: we don&#039;t want this class to have any more advantages and, more importantly, we don&#039;t care what they think about it. 

I&#039;d rather have the Gladiator bonus, to be honest. Playing a druid in arena isn&#039;t just binding every key to Lifebloom and rolling your face on the keyboard--there are so many tips, tricks, and oh shits! that I&#039;d argue it&#039;s hard to play a druid &quot;well&quot;. Harder than say an MS Warrior (I speak from experience; it&#039;s two macros, spamstring, and keeping mortal strike on anything that moves). I&#039;d also argue that anymore druid &quot;nerfs&quot; to PvP viability will, eventually, create a new breed of arena druids who are incredibly creative and resilient. Blizzard made us Swiss Army Knives; now they&#039;ve got to deal with it. 

@Phaelia
This is sort of a reply to your comment in the other thread, but yeah, I honestly rely more on MMO Champion rather than World of Raids--my boyfriend (an avid WoW theorycrafter) actually pointed it out to me first. And yes, I see that you&#039;ve seen the skeleton outline of my blog, and it&#039;s coming along slowly (as I plod through help pages and pick my friends&#039; brains for help). My goal was to have it content ready by the end of the weekend, but now I think I&#039;m shooting more toward the end of next week &gt;_&gt;.</description>
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<p>I&#8217;ll be the first one to admit that I&#8217;m certainly not the best resto PvP druid, but I can&#8217;t imagine that the loss of the 15% movement speed will be critical. As the veritable swing-man of my guild (feral gone resto gone feral gone resto), I never actually had the four piece bonus&#8211;I&#8217;m stuck with 3 Merciless Dragonhide pieces and  three Vengeful Kodohide pieces. The bad situations I&#8217;ve gotten myself into during arena matches hardly would have been fixed with a quick LOL and a hop into travel form. Regardless though, I see this as less of a &#8220;nerf&#8221; and more of adding insult to injury. We lose something that was, at least, occasionally useful, and gain a healing &#8220;bonus&#8221; instead&#8211;one that we never use. While I was initially perplexed as to why any half-way intelligent designer at Blizzard would make that change, the message is more than clear: we don&#8217;t want this class to have any more advantages and, more importantly, we don&#8217;t care what they think about it. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d rather have the Gladiator bonus, to be honest. Playing a druid in arena isn&#8217;t just binding every key to Lifebloom and rolling your face on the keyboard&#8211;there are so many tips, tricks, and oh shits! that I&#8217;d argue it&#8217;s hard to play a druid &#8220;well&#8221;. Harder than say an MS Warrior (I speak from experience; it&#8217;s two macros, spamstring, and keeping mortal strike on anything that moves). I&#8217;d also argue that anymore druid &#8220;nerfs&#8221; to PvP viability will, eventually, create a new breed of arena druids who are incredibly creative and resilient. Blizzard made us Swiss Army Knives; now they&#8217;ve got to deal with it. </p>
<p>@Phaelia<br />
This is sort of a reply to your comment in the other thread, but yeah, I honestly rely more on MMO Champion rather than World of Raids&#8211;my boyfriend (an avid WoW theorycrafter) actually pointed it out to me first. And yes, I see that you&#8217;ve seen the skeleton outline of my blog, and it&#8217;s coming along slowly (as I plod through help pages and pick my friends&#8217; brains for help). My goal was to have it content ready by the end of the weekend, but now I think I&#8217;m shooting more toward the end of next week &gt;_&gt;.</p>
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		<title>By: Kaymoo</title>
		<link>http://www.resto4life.com/2008/02/15/ptr-report-4-piece-set-bonus-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-2674</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaymoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 15:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having reached the 15% bonus yesterday, I have to say it makes an impact in my playingstyle. I see, that nerfs had to be done, but... this is critical, seriously. I think this might change when I reach a higher resielience rating, but at the moment, without 15% cheater-form I would be screwed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having reached the 15% bonus yesterday, I have to say it makes an impact in my playingstyle. I see, that nerfs had to be done, but&#8230; this is critical, seriously. I think this might change when I reach a higher resielience rating, but at the moment, without 15% cheater-form I would be screwed!</p>
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		<title>By: Phaelia</title>
		<link>http://www.resto4life.com/2008/02/15/ptr-report-4-piece-set-bonus-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-2627</link>
		<dc:creator>Phaelia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 01:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Bovisrex: Interesting! Thanks for clearing that up. I&#039;ve edited the original post so there isn&#039;t any risk of confusion.

@Twalkins: I think we&#039;ll probably see more Druids who already dip into Feral picking up Feline Swiftness after this change. I still don&#039;t understand why OUR speed increase doesn&#039;t work indoors but Rogues&#039; do! I swear if I ever play another MMO, I will at all costs avoid a class with ANY environmentally-specific abilities. &gt;.&lt;

@Nicksti: Good point. But if a Feral is using Travel Form to break a snare, wouldn&#039;t she just shift right back to her combat form?

@Crythia: Yeah yeah yeah. It was edited before you posted. ;-) Go raid ZA or something! And get Auryann to come, too!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Bovisrex: Interesting! Thanks for clearing that up. I&#8217;ve edited the original post so there isn&#8217;t any risk of confusion.</p>
<p>@Twalkins: I think we&#8217;ll probably see more Druids who already dip into Feral picking up Feline Swiftness after this change. I still don&#8217;t understand why OUR speed increase doesn&#8217;t work indoors but Rogues&#8217; do! I swear if I ever play another MMO, I will at all costs avoid a class with ANY environmentally-specific abilities. >.< @Nicksti: Good point. But if a Feral is using Travel Form to break a snare, wouldn&#8217;t she just shift right back to her combat form?</p>
<p>@Crythia: Yeah yeah yeah. It was edited before you posted. <img src='http://www.resto4life.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  Go raid ZA or something! And get Auryann to come, too!</p>
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		<title>By: Crythia</title>
		<link>http://www.resto4life.com/2008/02/15/ptr-report-4-piece-set-bonus-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-2620</link>
		<dc:creator>Crythia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 21:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4665558770&amp;pageNo=14&amp;sid=1#276

It&#039;s been changed. :P</description>
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<p>It&#8217;s been changed. <img src='http://www.resto4life.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: nicksti</title>
		<link>http://www.resto4life.com/2008/02/15/ptr-report-4-piece-set-bonus-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-2619</link>
		<dc:creator>nicksti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 18:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For a feral travel form is the most mana efficient way to SS out of a snare/poly. The Feral/Resto set bonus pales in comparison with the Balance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For a feral travel form is the most mana efficient way to SS out of a snare/poly. The Feral/Resto set bonus pales in comparison with the Balance.</p>
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		<title>By: Shifthappens</title>
		<link>http://www.resto4life.com/2008/02/15/ptr-report-4-piece-set-bonus-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-2618</link>
		<dc:creator>Shifthappens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 18:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Twalkins, the Arena 4piece speedincrease stack with Feral Swiftness, it&#039;s damn nice to be able to Prowl at 105% speed. :)

And yes, BIG nerf to resto arena set. I&#039;m a unhappy arena healer now. :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Twalkins, the Arena 4piece speedincrease stack with Feral Swiftness, it&#8217;s damn nice to be able to Prowl at 105% speed. <img src='http://www.resto4life.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>And yes, BIG nerf to resto arena set. I&#8217;m a unhappy arena healer now. <img src='http://www.resto4life.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Twalkins</title>
		<link>http://www.resto4life.com/2008/02/15/ptr-report-4-piece-set-bonus-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-2616</link>
		<dc:creator>Twalkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 17:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The feral change is not a devastating one, but in all honesty it was never much good anyway. Feral specced, your cat already has a 20(30?) percent speed increase and I&#039;m fairly cure the effect doesn&#039;t stack, and as a bear you&#039;re generally not chasing opponents around (if you are, you just feral charge). Travel form doesn&#039;t see much use as far as I know, so, whereas this is a feral nerf as much as it&#039;s a resto nerf, the nerf isn&#039;t going to be particularly important to us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The feral change is not a devastating one, but in all honesty it was never much good anyway. Feral specced, your cat already has a 20(30?) percent speed increase and I&#8217;m fairly cure the effect doesn&#8217;t stack, and as a bear you&#8217;re generally not chasing opponents around (if you are, you just feral charge). Travel form doesn&#8217;t see much use as far as I know, so, whereas this is a feral nerf as much as it&#8217;s a resto nerf, the nerf isn&#8217;t going to be particularly important to us.</p>
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		<title>By: Bovisrex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bovisrex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 17:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The wowhead one is actually older than the 15% movement speed bonus and hopelessly out of date.  Once upon a time (at the start of S2) the bonus from season 1 was different from season 2 (so you could get 2 +35 resielence bonuses (boni?) and upon hearing outcries blizzard made all the different season pieces stack for the same set bonus (made to be 15% movement for all 3 sets).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The wowhead one is actually older than the 15% movement speed bonus and hopelessly out of date.  Once upon a time (at the start of S2) the bonus from season 1 was different from season 2 (so you could get 2 +35 resielence bonuses (boni?) and upon hearing outcries blizzard made all the different season pieces stack for the same set bonus (made to be 15% movement for all 3 sets).</p>
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