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I don’t think a direct druid nerf would be the answer. The class is very fun to play (I’m levelling a druid through outland atm), and although very powerful they do have their weaknesses in small group pvp. They are squishy, and if you manage to get JoJ on them (and they don’t have a defensive dispel ready) you can control and burst them down relatively easily. I haven’t lost to a druid/warr team when playing with a warrior in a long time.

I do know that it is still a tough lineup against very good druids – those who know to stay away from the Paladin at all costs. This indicates, to me, that while the class may be somewhat imbalanced in small-scale pvp, there are also a lot of very good druid players. Skill does still shine through.

As a Paladin I find the power of druids in 2s frustrating, but I don’t think a direct nerf to druids is the best option…I’d rather see the mechanics of the other healing classes changed/updated. Priests are quite strong at the moment, and they definately have a place/role that is competitive with druids. I think that the mechanics of Paladins in particular (but also resto shamans) are outdated and not really suited to the current climate of pvp. Sure we can be powerful in pvp, largely due to the utility of BoF, BoP and our 12 seconds of immunity. However in the endurance game of 2s and to a lesser extent 3s, our lack of instant cast heals (leading to susceptibility to interrupts/cc) and the recent nerfs to BoF and BoSac do leave us rather limited. While we do have amazing longevity in heals, the increasing efficacy of drain classes pretty much counters that as well.

So getting to the reason for this quick analysis of Paladin faults on a druid blog – nerfing druids won’t improve the arena experience so much for Paladins, as the crappy mechanics of the class will still remain. Those healers posting for druid nerfs should be posting for buffs for themselves imo.

Also, I disagree that removing the pvp water from the game would balance druids. Should they do that, I would quit pvp on my paladin. Drains are just so powerful now, and although we have great longevity while we have mana, we have few means other than LoS to protect our mana pool, and virtually no means to regenerate any meaningful amount of mana once it is drained. Removing water in arena would make paladins a joke to play, and no doubt would adversely affect other classes in arena too.

But anyway, sorry about the rant! Nice blog, btw

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4028099734&sid=1&pageNo=1

We did get Natural Perfection but it doesn’t count as overpowered because no body cries about it.

At the end of the day it’s all about the warriors, no one talks about the other half of the “God mode” team, and unlike druids is very well represented in ALL brackets from 1850-2300.

@Nasirah: I somewhat enjoy PvP. Enough to have competed for a long period in Season 2 but not so much that I am not enjoying my current hiatus. As someone married to a player who LOOOOOOOOOOOVES PvP, however, I can’t say that I don’t think it has a place in the game, although I agree that it certainly causes a fair number of balance issues. I remember in EverQuest (1) PvP being added as more or less an afterthought. There didn’t seem to be any concern for balance, and there were just some classes destined to defeat everyone else. In order to make the game fun for as many different types of people as possible (which Blizzard seems to strive for), they have to adjust some things for PvP. It’s still no fun to be on the receiving end of a PvP-based “change”, though. =(

@Zackoria: That’s a good point about Warrior/Paladin. I know at the beginning of Season 2, that pair provoked a LOT of expletives. When we finally started beating them, it was a cause for much celebration (including victory dances around the apartment). I, too, am surprised at the vitriol from Warlocks. Maybe they associate the Druid’s method of healing over time with their form of damage over time and feel that misery would some company.

@Saba: Eek! I would be very disappointed with Blizzard were they to remove the 2v2 bracket. It’s certainly the most popular bracket with players, especially the casual ones. And there’s just something extra fun about going into an Arena with your husband/significant other/best friend and “taking on the world” (of Warcraft) together!

Alternately, this could lead to an argument for separate rule sets in PVP and PVE, though I think the game is too far along to make that kind of change. I’m also not sure Blizzard would do so anyhow.

“And I would be extremely upset if PvE effectiveness were reduced for the sake of PvP.”

It happens all the time, and this is why I hate PvP.

Personally, I don’t enjoy playing PvP. Call me “unskilled” that I don’t like playing against opponents who can think for themselves in a constantly changing environment. Part of it certainly does come down to that because I’ve never learned how to PvP. But bottom line is that I don’t enjoy it, and I do enjoy PvE, so I play the part of the game that I enjoy.

However, the real reason that I “hate” PvP is that PvP and PvE are two completely separate entities, forced into one game. Blizzard is constantly making changes to all the classes, buffing them, nerfing them, whatever. Sometimes it’s for PvP reasons, sometimes it’s for PvE reasons. But it’s very rare that the change does not, in some way, affect both. Fortunately, there’ve been no real changes to druids that affect the way I play. Other classes, however, aren’t so lucky.

My husband plays a warlock. Patch day was never a happy time in our home.

Shifting some debuffs from poison/curse to diseases would change the playing field