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	<title>Comments on: Leotheras the Blind: Battling Your Inner Demon</title>
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		<title>By: Icyslush</title>
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		<dc:creator>Icyslush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 16:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did the fight a few times before the addition of spell damage to + healing and it  wasn&#039;t fun. After the patch it got much easier. I&#039;m doing exactly what the others have pointed out: Moonfire, Barkskin, Wrath (until Barkskin down), Moonfire/Wrath till dead.

A few points I didn&#039;t see mentioned:

If you have a Pally in your group, concentration aura helps so your wraths don&#039;t get spell delayed as much by your demon&#039;s hits.

It is absolutely vital you pick up your demon ASAP. Hit &#039;V&#039; to turn on your enemy health bars and pull your eyes away away from your health bars when the demons are due. 

If you use grid, I highly recommend adding &quot;Insidious Whisper&quot; to your debuffs list and make sure it&#039;s displayed on Grid when it lands. Not only will you be able to see if you got a demon quickly while still watching health bars, if you didn&#039;t you&#039;ll also see if any healer got one so you can cover for them a bit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did the fight a few times before the addition of spell damage to + healing and it  wasn&#8217;t fun. After the patch it got much easier. I&#8217;m doing exactly what the others have pointed out: Moonfire, Barkskin, Wrath (until Barkskin down), Moonfire/Wrath till dead.</p>
<p>A few points I didn&#8217;t see mentioned:</p>
<p>If you have a Pally in your group, concentration aura helps so your wraths don&#8217;t get spell delayed as much by your demon&#8217;s hits.</p>
<p>It is absolutely vital you pick up your demon ASAP. Hit &#8216;V&#8217; to turn on your enemy health bars and pull your eyes away away from your health bars when the demons are due. </p>
<p>If you use grid, I highly recommend adding &#8220;Insidious Whisper&#8221; to your debuffs list and make sure it&#8217;s displayed on Grid when it lands. Not only will you be able to see if you got a demon quickly while still watching health bars, if you didn&#8217;t you&#8217;ll also see if any healer got one so you can cover for them a bit.</p>
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		<title>By: Fafhrd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fafhrd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 15:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never got around to macroing it in game but it&#039;s easy enough to make a macro to take any guesswork out of it.  You have plenty of time to dps down your add as long as you don&#039;t panic.

Off the top of my head:

/castsequence reset=target Moonfire, Barkskin, Wrath, Wrath, Wrath, Wrath, Wrath, Moonfire, Moonfire, Moonfire, Moonfire, Moonfire, Moonfire, Moonfire, Moonfire, Moonfire, Moonfire, Moonfire, Moonfire, Moonfire, Moonfire

The million moonfires at the end are just for insurance - if you don&#039;t have a pally in your group for concentration aura the pushback on wrath is annoying.  Moonfire spamming the demon to death is a bit mana inefficent, but I stuck with it because it&#039;s better dps against pushback (for 0/0/61, anyway).

re-ToL
I&#039;ve always stuck in ToL form the entire fight (barring an inner demon).  Getting out of whirlwind is important, but I&#039;ve never had a problem lingering at 40 yards and still making it to the wall in time for whirlwind.  On the off chance that you do catch an early whirlwind it&#039;s just fine to regrowth or rejuv and swiftmend it away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never got around to macroing it in game but it&#8217;s easy enough to make a macro to take any guesswork out of it.  You have plenty of time to dps down your add as long as you don&#8217;t panic.</p>
<p>Off the top of my head:</p>
<p>/castsequence reset=target Moonfire, Barkskin, Wrath, Wrath, Wrath, Wrath, Wrath, Moonfire, Moonfire, Moonfire, Moonfire, Moonfire, Moonfire, Moonfire, Moonfire, Moonfire, Moonfire, Moonfire, Moonfire, Moonfire, Moonfire</p>
<p>The million moonfires at the end are just for insurance &#8211; if you don&#8217;t have a pally in your group for concentration aura the pushback on wrath is annoying.  Moonfire spamming the demon to death is a bit mana inefficent, but I stuck with it because it&#8217;s better dps against pushback (for 0/0/61, anyway).</p>
<p>re-ToL<br />
I&#8217;ve always stuck in ToL form the entire fight (barring an inner demon).  Getting out of whirlwind is important, but I&#8217;ve never had a problem lingering at 40 yards and still making it to the wall in time for whirlwind.  On the off chance that you do catch an early whirlwind it&#8217;s just fine to regrowth or rejuv and swiftmend it away.</p>
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		<title>By: Bigtoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bigtoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 17:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Atahan
I run the same exact distribution, though I tweak a little because I&#039;m somewhat addicted to improved regrowth.  I shifted 3 from Shapeshifter (pvp talent) and 2 from Empowered Touch (not too useful w/o Naturalist) to Improved Regrowth.  I find I use Regrowth proactively (especially with 2/5 tier 5) much more than the emergency NS/HT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Atahan<br />
I run the same exact distribution, though I tweak a little because I&#8217;m somewhat addicted to improved regrowth.  I shifted 3 from Shapeshifter (pvp talent) and 2 from Empowered Touch (not too useful w/o Naturalist) to Improved Regrowth.  I find I use Regrowth proactively (especially with 2/5 tier 5) much more than the emergency NS/HT.</p>
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		<title>By: Athanyel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Athanyel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 06:54:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When my guild was working on Leo, we didn&#039;t have the  healing to  damage conversion either.

We ended up having everyone swap weapons and put on enough gear to hit  600 spell damage.  I posted a macro in our guild forums and had our other healers modify as necessary.  Mine equiped my MH/OH  damage weapons and put up Barkskin.  The same macro (with a different modifier key) put me back in Tree of Life with my  healing MH/OH.

After the Barkskin GCD is over, the demon is up and I would hit &#039;em with Moonfire and then spam Wrath &#039;til it was dead.

I ended up changing my spec because of this fight and have gone with 19/0/42 (http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=0tcrzbhZZxVIxcqMcot).  Gives me both Insect Swarm and near-uninterruptible Wrath.  Both items are nice for killing demons and regular farming.  The only thing I miss is 5/5 Improved Regrowth for a bit of extra throughput when I&#039;m refreshing Regrowth or just need to dump heals on someone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When my guild was working on Leo, we didn&#8217;t have the  healing to  damage conversion either.</p>
<p>We ended up having everyone swap weapons and put on enough gear to hit  600 spell damage.  I posted a macro in our guild forums and had our other healers modify as necessary.  Mine equiped my MH/OH  damage weapons and put up Barkskin.  The same macro (with a different modifier key) put me back in Tree of Life with my  healing MH/OH.</p>
<p>After the Barkskin GCD is over, the demon is up and I would hit &#8216;em with Moonfire and then spam Wrath &#8217;til it was dead.</p>
<p>I ended up changing my spec because of this fight and have gone with 19/0/42 (<a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=0tcrzbhZZxVIxcqMcot" rel="nofollow">http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=0tcrzbhZZxVIxcqMcot</a>).  Gives me both Insect Swarm and near-uninterruptible Wrath.  Both items are nice for killing demons and regular farming.  The only thing I miss is 5/5 Improved Regrowth for a bit of extra throughput when I&#8217;m refreshing Regrowth or just need to dump heals on someone.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 19:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s my Leo strat (I&#039;ve never been mind controlled):

Pre  dmg to gear buff: 

I swapped out gear to give myself at least  500 spell dmg. Also, my spec has 8 pts in balance for faster wrath casts. Upon demonspawn, I cast: Barkskin, Moonfire, wrath spam until dead. I usually have about 3-5 seconds to spare.

Post  dmg to gear buff: 
I keep my healing gear on (I&#039;m at  1890 healing so equals approx.  630 dmg) and repeat the spell cycle above. Additionally with instashift, while in tree form, as soon as i cast moonfire, it auto switches to caster form. 

Definitely don&#039;t do anything but attack. No time for other buffs or heals. And make sure you have mana going into that phase.

You should be good with that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s my Leo strat (I&#8217;ve never been mind controlled):</p>
<p>Pre  dmg to gear buff: </p>
<p>I swapped out gear to give myself at least  500 spell dmg. Also, my spec has 8 pts in balance for faster wrath casts. Upon demonspawn, I cast: Barkskin, Moonfire, wrath spam until dead. I usually have about 3-5 seconds to spare.</p>
<p>Post  dmg to gear buff:<br />
I keep my healing gear on (I&#8217;m at  1890 healing so equals approx.  630 dmg) and repeat the spell cycle above. Additionally with instashift, while in tree form, as soon as i cast moonfire, it auto switches to caster form. </p>
<p>Definitely don&#8217;t do anything but attack. No time for other buffs or heals. And make sure you have mana going into that phase.</p>
<p>You should be good with that.</p>
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		<title>By: megan</title>
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		<dc:creator>megan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 18:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I probably won&#039;t see the Leo fight for quite some time. That said, the &quot;mirror mirror&quot; pic is definately all I needed to see, Resto4WIN.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I probably won&#8217;t see the Leo fight for quite some time. That said, the &#8220;mirror mirror&#8221; pic is definately all I needed to see, Resto4WIN.</p>
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		<title>By: Phaelia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phaelia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 18:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks to everyone for your feedback! I&#039;ve added information about not using Thorns, using spell damage consumables (like food and Wizard Oil), suggesting the use of a spell damage trinket, and considering speccing into the Starlight Wrath talent to reduce Wrath cast time by 0.5 seconds. I&#039;m excited to try this fight myself now. ^_^

And big feet suck. Just imagine having to pass on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30092&quot; class=&quot;q4&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;[Orca-Hide Boots]&lt;/a&gt; because they&#039;re the wrong size. I blame the release of WoW in China (Chinese Elves have daintier feet on average, or so I&#039;m told).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to everyone for your feedback! I&#8217;ve added information about not using Thorns, using spell damage consumables (like food and Wizard Oil), suggesting the use of a spell damage trinket, and considering speccing into the Starlight Wrath talent to reduce Wrath cast time by 0.5 seconds. I&#8217;m excited to try this fight myself now. ^_^</p>
<p>And big feet suck. Just imagine having to pass on <a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30092" class="q4" rel="nofollow">[Orca-Hide Boots]</a> because they&#8217;re the wrong size. I blame the release of WoW in China (Chinese Elves have daintier feet on average, or so I&#8217;m told).</p>
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		<title>By: Brent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 04:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did this fight before the changes to +Heal = +Dmg, wearing about 387 +Damage buffed.  In order to get the guy down happily I also added 7 points in Balance to get -0.5 to Wrath and an increased moonfire crit.

The procedure&#039;s pretty easy:

* You get the Inner Demon spawning (I think the debuff is Insidious Whispers)
* Pop Barkskin
* Moonfire
* Wrath spam till he&#039;s dead.

Don&#039;t heal yourself, thats your fellow healer&#039;s jobs.  We also found that splitting the healers up, Druids + half Pallies to the north, and Priests + half Pallies to the south, with a shaman floating, helped.  The priests slip Shields over each other, the Druids pop barkskin and the Pallies bubble.  That way you don&#039;t lose casting time.

[Super Rejuv Potions] are good if you have access because if the healers are thin this heals you as well as giving you mana back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did this fight before the changes to +Heal = +Dmg, wearing about 387 +Damage buffed.  In order to get the guy down happily I also added 7 points in Balance to get -0.5 to Wrath and an increased moonfire crit.</p>
<p>The procedure&#8217;s pretty easy:</p>
<p>* You get the Inner Demon spawning (I think the debuff is Insidious Whispers)<br />
* Pop Barkskin<br />
* Moonfire<br />
* Wrath spam till he&#8217;s dead.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t heal yourself, thats your fellow healer&#8217;s jobs.  We also found that splitting the healers up, Druids + half Pallies to the north, and Priests + half Pallies to the south, with a shaman floating, helped.  The priests slip Shields over each other, the Druids pop barkskin and the Pallies bubble.  That way you don&#8217;t lose casting time.</p>
<p>[Super Rejuv Potions] are good if you have access because if the healers are thin this heals you as well as giving you mana back.</p>
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		<title>By: Bigtoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bigtoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 18:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually stay out of Tree of Life completely for the Leo fight, mobility is just too important and it&#039;s one of the few fights where the ToL speed debuff actually matters.

I echo everything said here: with the change to  heal it&#039;s now a TON easier on the healers.  My cycle is Moonfire - Trinket - Barkskin - Wrath - Wrath - Wrath etc.  I do not bother switching weapons, it&#039;s not worth the loss of a GCD unless you have a sweet mage weapon.

If you&#039;re still have trouble with your inner demon, use consumables (Crunchy Serpent food, Wizard Oil)  If you&#039;re STILL having trouble, equip a handful of your best pieces of Balance gear.  If you&#039;re STILL having trouble, switch to a 18/0/43 spec.  Having 1.5 second wraths that don&#039;t get interrupted (and not having to spend 1.5 seconds on barkskin GCD) turns it into EZ mode.

And GREAT picture Phae, lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually stay out of Tree of Life completely for the Leo fight, mobility is just too important and it&#8217;s one of the few fights where the ToL speed debuff actually matters.</p>
<p>I echo everything said here: with the change to  heal it&#8217;s now a TON easier on the healers.  My cycle is Moonfire &#8211; Trinket &#8211; Barkskin &#8211; Wrath &#8211; Wrath &#8211; Wrath etc.  I do not bother switching weapons, it&#8217;s not worth the loss of a GCD unless you have a sweet mage weapon.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re still have trouble with your inner demon, use consumables (Crunchy Serpent food, Wizard Oil)  If you&#8217;re STILL having trouble, equip a handful of your best pieces of Balance gear.  If you&#8217;re STILL having trouble, switch to a 18/0/43 spec.  Having 1.5 second wraths that don&#8217;t get interrupted (and not having to spend 1.5 seconds on barkskin GCD) turns it into EZ mode.</p>
<p>And GREAT picture Phae, lol</p>
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		<title>By: Draleon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Draleon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 19:26:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Deadly Boss Mods will tell you when you have it just a .5 sec earlier so that is handy. 

Cast Barkskin / Starfire / Moonfire / Wrath / Wrath / Wrath (have you thorns up also).

I toss in a moonfire every now and then.  As previous poster said make sure other healers are tossing up a hot or something easy on you so you don&#039;t die and just concentrate on killin!  

-Dra</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deadly Boss Mods will tell you when you have it just a .5 sec earlier so that is handy. </p>
<p>Cast Barkskin / Starfire / Moonfire / Wrath / Wrath / Wrath (have you thorns up also).</p>
<p>I toss in a moonfire every now and then.  As previous poster said make sure other healers are tossing up a hot or something easy on you so you don&#8217;t die and just concentrate on killin!  </p>
<p>-Dra</p>
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