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	<title>Comments on: Mailbag: &#8220;Tree Tactics 101&#8243; from Bigtoy of Cho&#8217;gall</title>
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		<title>By: Phaelia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phaelia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 18:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Sydera: I&#039;m so glad that Bigtoy&#039;s recommendations have been helpful to you and happy I thought to add it to the &quot;Guides&quot; section despite not being something I can claim (I decided the content was just too good and detailed to omit).

I&#039;ve seen the multiple tank macros before and tried them myself. But having to change my macros and rememorize which key corresponded to which person got me in the end. I use mouseover healing and a Nostromo game pad in conjunction with the Grid UI addon and a special layout that lets me group raid members by role (tanks, melee DPS, ranged DPS, and healers). That way all the tanks I would need to roll LB on are in about an inch of screen real estate from one another along with ticking timers below their names. Hmmm .. this might make a good blog post! /jots idea down</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Sydera: I&#8217;m so glad that Bigtoy&#8217;s recommendations have been helpful to you and happy I thought to add it to the &#8220;Guides&#8221; section despite not being something I can claim (I decided the content was just too good and detailed to omit).</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen the multiple tank macros before and tried them myself. But having to change my macros and rememorize which key corresponded to which person got me in the end. I use mouseover healing and a Nostromo game pad in conjunction with the Grid UI addon and a special layout that lets me group raid members by role (tanks, melee DPS, ranged DPS, and healers). That way all the tanks I would need to roll LB on are in about an inch of screen real estate from one another along with ticking timers below their names. Hmmm .. this might make a good blog post! /jots idea down</p>
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		<title>By: Sydera</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sydera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 19:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been using BigToy&#039;s tactics for weeks, both for my own healing and for making healing assignments, and it&#039;s really working for me.  The one thing that I would add is that the challenge of keeping up multiple stacks of lifebloom is being fast enough to change targets.  What I do is make a macro for each of my tanks:
/target Tank1
/cast Lifebloom

Very simple, very effective, lets me instantly switch between them.  The only drawback is editing the macros and memorizing who the symbols represent on the spot. Since I had eleven free toolbar spaces I also made one for myself and one for some of the dps--I keep one for each of the squishies if possible.  In 10 man, I&#039;ll have a macro to target everyone.  This works for me because keyboard shortcuts on my laptop seem to impede my ability to move around.  I&#039;d like to know what other druids do to make themselves faster!  I&#039;m always racing the global cooldown.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been using BigToy&#8217;s tactics for weeks, both for my own healing and for making healing assignments, and it&#8217;s really working for me.  The one thing that I would add is that the challenge of keeping up multiple stacks of lifebloom is being fast enough to change targets.  What I do is make a macro for each of my tanks:<br />
/target Tank1<br />
/cast Lifebloom</p>
<p>Very simple, very effective, lets me instantly switch between them.  The only drawback is editing the macros and memorizing who the symbols represent on the spot. Since I had eleven free toolbar spaces I also made one for myself and one for some of the dps&#8211;I keep one for each of the squishies if possible.  In 10 man, I&#8217;ll have a macro to target everyone.  This works for me because keyboard shortcuts on my laptop seem to impede my ability to move around.  I&#8217;d like to know what other druids do to make themselves faster!  I&#8217;m always racing the global cooldown.</p>
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		<title>By: Razulath</title>
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		<dc:creator>Razulath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 16:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On Zuljin fight eagle phase, stack 3 times LB on yourself and keep it stacked, then you can Heal almost at much as you want ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On Zuljin fight eagle phase, stack 3 times LB on yourself and keep it stacked, then you can Heal almost at much as you want <img src='http://www.resto4life.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Bigtoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bigtoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Edelia: That&#039;s a really clever idea keeping the triple-lifebloom on yourself to heal the casting spell damage.  I&#039;ll have to try that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Edelia: That&#8217;s a really clever idea keeping the triple-lifebloom on yourself to heal the casting spell damage.  I&#8217;ll have to try that.</p>
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		<title>By: Zackoria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zackoria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hehe, it must be mass lurker kill week. One shot of our second lurker kill this last sunday. ^_^

I believe Edelia is talking about the Zul&#039;jin fight when he turns into one of the animal bosses. From what i read of him he transforms into each animal boss as a phase of the fight. I only know from what ive read, but were getting close! (Finally got down dragonhawk last night. BTW i don&#039;t envy anyone starting to learn that fight &gt;.&lt;) The eagle boss himself is pretty simple healing wise. I just automaticly start giving out lifeblooms to anyone who&#039;s xperl border lights up red. Xperl borders are really helpfull for getting those lifeblooms out to the raid faster.
 
Just try and keep everyone above 50% health for the fight since people can have a chance to get roflpwned(the bird adds from the sky target people with lower health like Aran). The key to eagle boss is just having the raid be able to stay spread out and collapse immedietly (dont have EVERYONE collapse right before he lighting storms cause it can be off and he often lighting shocks right before, just have the raid start edgeing closer to each other).

Edit: dang Edelia your fast =P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hehe, it must be mass lurker kill week. One shot of our second lurker kill this last sunday. ^_^</p>
<p>I believe Edelia is talking about the Zul&#8217;jin fight when he turns into one of the animal bosses. From what i read of him he transforms into each animal boss as a phase of the fight. I only know from what ive read, but were getting close! (Finally got down dragonhawk last night. BTW i don&#8217;t envy anyone starting to learn that fight >.<) The eagle boss himself is pretty simple healing wise. I just automaticly start giving out lifeblooms to anyone who&#8217;s xperl border lights up red. Xperl borders are really helpfull for getting those lifeblooms out to the raid faster.</p>
<p>Just try and keep everyone above 50% health for the fight since people can have a chance to get roflpwned(the bird adds from the sky target people with lower health like Aran). The key to eagle boss is just having the raid be able to stay spread out and collapse immedietly (dont have EVERYONE collapse right before he lighting storms cause it can be off and he often lighting shocks right before, just have the raid start edgeing closer to each other).</p>
<p>Edit: dang Edelia your fast =P</p>
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		<title>By: Edelia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edelia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops, I meant for the Eagle phase of Zul&#039;jin. Not for the Eagle boss himself :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops, I meant for the Eagle phase of Zul&#8217;jin. Not for the Eagle boss himself <img src='http://www.resto4life.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Phaelia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phaelia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:03:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Zackoria: I think that some people think Druids are boring to play because of the timing we have to manage and the fact that we generally are encouraged to focus on the same subset of raidmates (generally the tanks). Of course, I don&#039;t necessarily just do that, and I&#039;m sure you don&#039;t either. Lifeblooms are great for throwing around during spare GCDs. I have just got to try your jumping bean approach to Lifebloom healing, though! Fortunately, I have jump bound to my Nostromo gamepad. =)

@Ermengol: Thank you for the congratulations, and right back at you! It sound like several guilds downed Lurker last week (Doomilias&#039; included). Your boss kill picture is gorgeous. Someone must have an amazing video card. Thanks for the additional tips for Gruul. While we consider him to be on farm now, there&#039;s ALWAYS room for improvement, and I like your idea about Regrowth. I have been using the LB on myself just before getting turned to stone after another reader recommended it to me. That&#039;s made a big difference since I no longer have to bother with healing myself after a shatter.

@Aiuriun: Grats (?) on your upcoming respec. May you enjoy healing as much as I do!

@Nasirah: Thank you for sharing it with your guildmates. Bigtoy was very kind in sending it to me to post! I&#039;m glad so many people are finding value in it.

@Kaera: I wasn&#039;t aware that Chain Heal had such dynamic targetting. Looking at the healing numbers put up by shaman guildmates, it&#039;s pretty much 100% Chain Heal so I tend to give him a hard time about not being especially creative. ^_^ Maybe I won&#039;t do that so much. Nah ... a little ribbing among healers never hurt anyone. =) You make a great point about latency. I myself can&#039;t even fathom what it would be like to try to maintain stacks of LB on 4 tanks; I still struggle with three (maybe because I have a hard time ignoring everyone else who gets into trouble). And I didn&#039;t know about the visual indicator of the GCD could be &quot;off&quot; so thanks for that handy tip.

@Lemo: O.o Actually, I *believe* that Recount may be crediting me for the Bloom of my Lifebloom. Or maybe it was WWS. It seemed like I was getting credit, but I may be mistaken.

@Bigtoy: You are, of course, very welcome. Thank you for sharing your advice with everyone. If you want to make any changes, just let me know.

@Edelia: I will keep that in mind for when my guild begins attempting the Eagle boss (we&#039;ve only killed Bear and Lynx so far). Thank you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Zackoria: I think that some people think Druids are boring to play because of the timing we have to manage and the fact that we generally are encouraged to focus on the same subset of raidmates (generally the tanks). Of course, I don&#8217;t necessarily just do that, and I&#8217;m sure you don&#8217;t either. Lifeblooms are great for throwing around during spare GCDs. I have just got to try your jumping bean approach to Lifebloom healing, though! Fortunately, I have jump bound to my Nostromo gamepad. =)</p>
<p>@Ermengol: Thank you for the congratulations, and right back at you! It sound like several guilds downed Lurker last week (Doomilias&#8217; included). Your boss kill picture is gorgeous. Someone must have an amazing video card. Thanks for the additional tips for Gruul. While we consider him to be on farm now, there&#8217;s ALWAYS room for improvement, and I like your idea about Regrowth. I have been using the LB on myself just before getting turned to stone after another reader recommended it to me. That&#8217;s made a big difference since I no longer have to bother with healing myself after a shatter.</p>
<p>@Aiuriun: Grats (?) on your upcoming respec. May you enjoy healing as much as I do!</p>
<p>@Nasirah: Thank you for sharing it with your guildmates. Bigtoy was very kind in sending it to me to post! I&#8217;m glad so many people are finding value in it.</p>
<p>@Kaera: I wasn&#8217;t aware that Chain Heal had such dynamic targetting. Looking at the healing numbers put up by shaman guildmates, it&#8217;s pretty much 100% Chain Heal so I tend to give him a hard time about not being especially creative. ^_^ Maybe I won&#8217;t do that so much. Nah &#8230; a little ribbing among healers never hurt anyone. =) You make a great point about latency. I myself can&#8217;t even fathom what it would be like to try to maintain stacks of LB on 4 tanks; I still struggle with three (maybe because I have a hard time ignoring everyone else who gets into trouble). And I didn&#8217;t know about the visual indicator of the GCD could be &#8220;off&#8221; so thanks for that handy tip.</p>
<p>@Lemo: O.o Actually, I *believe* that Recount may be crediting me for the Bloom of my Lifebloom. Or maybe it was WWS. It seemed like I was getting credit, but I may be mistaken.</p>
<p>@Bigtoy: You are, of course, very welcome. Thank you for sharing your advice with everyone. If you want to make any changes, just let me know.</p>
<p>@Edelia: I will keep that in mind for when my guild begins attempting the Eagle boss (we&#8217;ve only killed Bear and Lynx so far). Thank you!</p>
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		<title>By: Edelia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edelia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 07:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zul&#039;jin Healing:

Eagle Phase, you should 3 stack lifebloom yourself, then you can use the other 3 GCDs to cast 1 lifebloom on other raid members that need healing. Use the 4th to refresh your own, you&#039;ll never die even if you get hit by all 4 tornados at once + a lightining bolt. And you&#039;ll have very effective healing on the rest of the raid since you are using the entirety of the spell, ticks + bloom.</description>
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<p>Eagle Phase, you should 3 stack lifebloom yourself, then you can use the other 3 GCDs to cast 1 lifebloom on other raid members that need healing. Use the 4th to refresh your own, you&#8217;ll never die even if you get hit by all 4 tornados at once + a lightining bolt. And you&#8217;ll have very effective healing on the rest of the raid since you are using the entirety of the spell, ticks + bloom.</p>
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		<title>By: Bigtoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bigtoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 05:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks to Phae for posting me, hey I&#039;m published.

Any thoughts on the general strategies themselves, or the syntax laying it out?  Upon re-reading it, I think I should have organized it &quot;3-4 tanks&quot; &quot;2 tanks&quot; &quot;1 tank&quot; since that&#039;s probably more straight forward.  Anyone have any critiques of the base line tree tactics?

Also regarding ping, I can keep up 4 lifeblooms at 230ish ping pretty easily, but it&#039;s true that it&#039;s tough and if I hesitate, they cascade off pretty quickly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to Phae for posting me, hey I&#8217;m published.</p>
<p>Any thoughts on the general strategies themselves, or the syntax laying it out?  Upon re-reading it, I think I should have organized it &#8220;3-4 tanks&#8221; &#8220;2 tanks&#8221; &#8220;1 tank&#8221; since that&#8217;s probably more straight forward.  Anyone have any critiques of the base line tree tactics?</p>
<p>Also regarding ping, I can keep up 4 lifeblooms at 230ish ping pretty easily, but it&#8217;s true that it&#8217;s tough and if I hesitate, they cascade off pretty quickly.</p>
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		<title>By: Lemo of Laughing Skull</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lemo of Laughing Skull</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 02:32:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LB absolutely kills on Hyjal trash (rolling on 3/4 tanks).  At the end of a clear I usually have  ~1 million more effective healing than the next healer.  Doesn&#039;t mean anything really, and I&#039;m not even that great a healer, but it&#039;s still kind of neat.  I prefer to raid heal with LB rather than rejuv/regrowth.  It&#039;s faster HPS than rejuv/less mana than regrowth and with the bloom it heals for 3300ish.  I guess the only downside is you don&#039;t get credit for the bloom, but who cares really?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LB absolutely kills on Hyjal trash (rolling on 3/4 tanks).  At the end of a clear I usually have  ~1 million more effective healing than the next healer.  Doesn&#8217;t mean anything really, and I&#8217;m not even that great a healer, but it&#8217;s still kind of neat.  I prefer to raid heal with LB rather than rejuv/regrowth.  It&#8217;s faster HPS than rejuv/less mana than regrowth and with the bloom it heals for 3300ish.  I guess the only downside is you don&#8217;t get credit for the bloom, but who cares really?</p>
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