Comments on: Patch 2.3 Changes http://www.resto4life.com/2007/10/12/patch-23-changes/ So many numbers, you'll think you're getting audited Fri, 23 Sep 2011 23:37:08 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Anonymous http://www.resto4life.com/2007/10/12/patch-23-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-629 Anonymous Tue, 16 Oct 2007 17:38:00 +0000 http://www.resto4life.com/index.php/2007/10/12/patch-23-changes/#comment-629 I have the mages in my guild trained well enough now that curses are generally gone instantly. <br/><br/>Not enough shamans around to say the same so the ability to cure poison will be a big improvement. <br/><br/>Still, would be nice to be able to do both. I have the mages in my guild trained well enough now that curses are generally gone instantly.

Not enough shamans around to say the same so the ability to cure poison will be a big improvement.

Still, would be nice to be able to do both.

]]> By: Phaelia http://www.resto4life.com/2007/10/12/patch-23-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-628 Phaelia Mon, 15 Oct 2007 20:47:00 +0000 http://www.resto4life.com/index.php/2007/10/12/patch-23-changes/#comment-628 @Kalaghan: Good point about Soothe Animal. I don't have any gathering tradeskills, but I DO sometimes use it when I'm fishing. Of course, you have to refresh it so often that if you're planning on fishing a whole pool, you might as well just kill the darn thing (usually a giant firefly in Zangarmarsh). And while I was reluctant about mentioning the debate over whether or not the change to HotW is a buff or a nerf, I figured that someone (such as yourself) might be able to illuminate the issue. I'm in agreement on the Rogue loot. Most everyone else already has to compete with one or more classes for drops.<br/><br/>@Treibh: That's good to know about SSC. My guild is <i>just</i> beginning to contemplate the possibility of us beginning work there, so it's good to know that this change will be a positive one. I'm only familiar with the number of curses thrown around in Kara. And while Mages <i>can</i> remove them, I find it's rare that they do, either because they aren't accustomed to watching for them or because they don't feel its their responsbility. I'd just as soon handle all the decursing if I could.<br/><br/>Thank you both for commenting! @Kalaghan: Good point about Soothe Animal. I don’t have any gathering tradeskills, but I DO sometimes use it when I’m fishing. Of course, you have to refresh it so often that if you’re planning on fishing a whole pool, you might as well just kill the darn thing (usually a giant firefly in Zangarmarsh). And while I was reluctant about mentioning the debate over whether or not the change to HotW is a buff or a nerf, I figured that someone (such as yourself) might be able to illuminate the issue. I’m in agreement on the Rogue loot. Most everyone else already has to compete with one or more classes for drops.

@Treibh: That’s good to know about SSC. My guild is just beginning to contemplate the possibility of us beginning work there, so it’s good to know that this change will be a positive one. I’m only familiar with the number of curses thrown around in Kara. And while Mages can remove them, I find it’s rare that they do, either because they aren’t accustomed to watching for them or because they don’t feel its their responsbility. I’d just as soon handle all the decursing if I could.

Thank you both for commenting!

]]> By: Treibh http://www.resto4life.com/2007/10/12/patch-23-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-627 Treibh Sun, 14 Oct 2007 19:52:00 +0000 http://www.resto4life.com/index.php/2007/10/12/patch-23-changes/#comment-627 <i>While nice, I'd say that removing poisons is only about 30% of the reason I'm forced to shift out of ToL. 70% goes to Remove Curse which seems a far more popular debuff type for mobs to throw around.</i><br/><br/>It is nice for tree druids who raid SSC. Leotheras' trash, Karathress' trash and all of phase 2 of the Vashj fight have to be done in caster form because removing poison is key. Remove curses would be nice too, but I'm not complaining.<br/><br/><i>I really don't think people should be replacing a TK belt (Girdle of Zaetar) with a heroic badge item</i><br/><br/>Not only is the badge belt better as you point out, but it is a guaranteed drop - if you get the badges it is yours. My guild is working on Kael'Thas and we've killed Void Reaver every week since the TK attunement was removed (4 months) and we've <b>never</b> had that belt drop. Now I can be guaranteed to get a better belt in exchange for running the joke that is Heroic Mechanar for a few weeks - how does that make any sense? While nice, I’d say that removing poisons is only about 30% of the reason I’m forced to shift out of ToL. 70% goes to Remove Curse which seems a far more popular debuff type for mobs to throw around.

It is nice for tree druids who raid SSC. Leotheras’ trash, Karathress’ trash and all of phase 2 of the Vashj fight have to be done in caster form because removing poison is key. Remove curses would be nice too, but I’m not complaining.

I really don’t think people should be replacing a TK belt (Girdle of Zaetar) with a heroic badge item

Not only is the badge belt better as you point out, but it is a guaranteed drop – if you get the badges it is yours. My guild is working on Kael’Thas and we’ve killed Void Reaver every week since the TK attunement was removed (4 months) and we’ve never had that belt drop. Now I can be guaranteed to get a better belt in exchange for running the joke that is Heroic Mechanar for a few weeks – how does that make any sense?

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.resto4life.com/2007/10/12/patch-23-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-626 Anonymous Fri, 12 Oct 2007 17:08:00 +0000 http://www.resto4life.com/index.php/2007/10/12/patch-23-changes/#comment-626 *not *not

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.resto4life.com/2007/10/12/patch-23-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-625 Anonymous Fri, 12 Oct 2007 17:07:00 +0000 http://www.resto4life.com/index.php/2007/10/12/patch-23-changes/#comment-625 I'm an idiot...it's now www.wowraid.com, it's www.worldofraids.com. Hopefully y'all know that, if not sorry for the miss-link.<br/>-Kal I’m an idiot…it’s now http://www.wowraid.com, it’s http://www.worldofraids.com. Hopefully y’all know that, if not sorry for the miss-link.
-Kal

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.resto4life.com/2007/10/12/patch-23-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-624 Anonymous Fri, 12 Oct 2007 16:22:00 +0000 http://www.resto4life.com/index.php/2007/10/12/patch-23-changes/#comment-624 FYI, Sooth Animal is great while farming herbs. Know all those irritating nether ray things (or w/e they are) on that get in the way during your netherwing dailies? You basically have to be on them to aggro them if it's up.<br/><br/>As for the HotW argument, well I haven't done the math myself, but when I read through those posts, it seemed like most of the people who argued it was a nerf were missing some key points or hadn't even bothered with the math. The only real reason for argument here I think, is the fact that now we're going to piss of rogues even more. But hey, locks/spriests duke it out for the same gear. Why shouldn't rogues have some competition too?<br/><br/>Oh ya, and www.wowraid.com has all the new badge rewards up. I'm hoping they buff some current gear. I really don't think people should be replacing a TK belt (Girdle of Zaetar) with a heroic badge item (change is -2stam/spir, +11 heal, +2mp5, if you match sockets which I think you should in this case).<br/>-Kalaghan, Nathrezim FYI, Sooth Animal is great while farming herbs. Know all those irritating nether ray things (or w/e they are) on that get in the way during your netherwing dailies? You basically have to be on them to aggro them if it’s up.

As for the HotW argument, well I haven’t done the math myself, but when I read through those posts, it seemed like most of the people who argued it was a nerf were missing some key points or hadn’t even bothered with the math. The only real reason for argument here I think, is the fact that now we’re going to piss of rogues even more. But hey, locks/spriests duke it out for the same gear. Why shouldn’t rogues have some competition too?

Oh ya, and http://www.wowraid.com has all the new badge rewards up. I’m hoping they buff some current gear. I really don’t think people should be replacing a TK belt (Girdle of Zaetar) with a heroic badge item (change is -2stam/spir, +11 heal, +2mp5, if you match sockets which I think you should in this case).
-Kalaghan, Nathrezim

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