Comments on: Rebirth Cooldown to Be Reduced to 20 Minutes http://www.resto4life.com/2007/09/26/rebirth-cooldown-to-be-reduced-to-20-minutes/ So many numbers, you'll think you're getting audited Thu, 16 Feb 2012 06:30:53 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Phaelia http://www.resto4life.com/2007/09/26/rebirth-cooldown-to-be-reduced-to-20-minutes/comment-page-1/#comment-529 Phaelia Mon, 01 Oct 2007 06:05:00 +0000 http://www.resto4life.com/index.php/2007/09/26/rebirth-cooldown-to-be-reduced-to-20-minutes/#comment-529 @Girl Meets WoW: I can't imagine having that many Druids in one raid! That must be amazing with the number of battle rezzes and Innervates (in addition to the various auras provided by our forms). I'm sure this is a <em>very</em> exciting change for your guild! @Girl Meets WoW: I can’t imagine having that many Druids in one raid! That must be amazing with the number of battle rezzes and Innervates (in addition to the various auras provided by our forms). I’m sure this is a very exciting change for your guild!

]]> By: Girl Meets WoW http://www.resto4life.com/2007/09/26/rebirth-cooldown-to-be-reduced-to-20-minutes/comment-page-1/#comment-528 Girl Meets WoW Sat, 29 Sep 2007 05:53:00 +0000 http://www.resto4life.com/index.php/2007/09/26/rebirth-cooldown-to-be-reduced-to-20-minutes/#comment-528 As a member of a raid that regularly runs with 5-7 druids on any given TK/SSC night... this change is sick, sick, awesomely sick. As a member of a raid that regularly runs with 5-7 druids on any given TK/SSC night… this change is sick, sick, awesomely sick.

]]> By: Phaelia http://www.resto4life.com/2007/09/26/rebirth-cooldown-to-be-reduced-to-20-minutes/comment-page-1/#comment-527 Phaelia Fri, 28 Sep 2007 17:12:00 +0000 http://www.resto4life.com/index.php/2007/09/26/rebirth-cooldown-to-be-reduced-to-20-minutes/#comment-527 @Jeff: Yeah, instancing in BC brought the lack of a rez into stark reality for many healing Druids (the few of us that hadn't gone Feral). And Wrath of the Lich King will likely mean we'll face the same problem.<br/><br/>@Aftereight: I would be fine with the idea of our regular rez resetting the timer on Rebirth. Although I don't think it's a necessary change, if it would make others happy, I could accept it.<br/><br/>@Adendra: Wow - that actually sounds like a lot of fun. I think my highest Druid concentration was 60% - bear tank, a boomkin and me for Heroic Slave Pens. That was a <i>really</i> fun run!<br/><br/>@Pesce: Totally. Now where are my laser cannons? @Jeff: Yeah, instancing in BC brought the lack of a rez into stark reality for many healing Druids (the few of us that hadn’t gone Feral). And Wrath of the Lich King will likely mean we’ll face the same problem.

@Aftereight: I would be fine with the idea of our regular rez resetting the timer on Rebirth. Although I don’t think it’s a necessary change, if it would make others happy, I could accept it.

@Adendra: Wow – that actually sounds like a lot of fun. I think my highest Druid concentration was 60% – bear tank, a boomkin and me for Heroic Slave Pens. That was a really fun run!

@Pesce: Totally. Now where are my laser cannons?

]]> By: Pesce http://www.resto4life.com/2007/09/26/rebirth-cooldown-to-be-reduced-to-20-minutes/comment-page-1/#comment-526 Pesce Fri, 28 Sep 2007 14:55:00 +0000 http://www.resto4life.com/index.php/2007/09/26/rebirth-cooldown-to-be-reduced-to-20-minutes/#comment-526 Druids should be given better spells than any other class - we're druids for heavens sake! <br/><br/>Nuff said... :) Druids should be given better spells than any other class – we’re druids for heavens sake!

Nuff said… :)

]]> By: Addie http://www.resto4life.com/2007/09/26/rebirth-cooldown-to-be-reduced-to-20-minutes/comment-page-1/#comment-525 Addie Fri, 28 Sep 2007 13:50:00 +0000 http://www.resto4life.com/index.php/2007/09/26/rebirth-cooldown-to-be-reduced-to-20-minutes/#comment-525 My guild has always been druid heavy, we used to do the old 5-mans (when corpse runs were loooooong) with one druid of each flavor and a hunter and a warlock, and some good jumper cables in the mix too. Whose res was ready was always part of the fun. <br/><br/>*smiles* I'm looking forward to the shorter cool down. <br/><br/>Adendra Mistrunner, denmomma to The Impalers, Scarlet Crusade. My guild has always been druid heavy, we used to do the old 5-mans (when corpse runs were loooooong) with one druid of each flavor and a hunter and a warlock, and some good jumper cables in the mix too. Whose res was ready was always part of the fun.

*smiles* I’m looking forward to the shorter cool down.

Adendra Mistrunner, denmomma to The Impalers, Scarlet Crusade.

]]> By: Aftereight http://www.resto4life.com/2007/09/26/rebirth-cooldown-to-be-reduced-to-20-minutes/comment-page-1/#comment-524 Aftereight Fri, 28 Sep 2007 08:33:00 +0000 http://www.resto4life.com/index.php/2007/09/26/rebirth-cooldown-to-be-reduced-to-20-minutes/#comment-524 Magna: "I'd bring up prot pallies (Which aren't bad for 5 mans!), but if anyone is going to die, it's probably the tank so that's sort of a bad idea."<br/><br/>My husband is a protection paladin and I've been lucky in having him tank for me. He never dies (ofc he's one of our MT's for the guild) if anyone dies in our 5 mans usually it's either suicidal dps or me :) But he takes care of the OOC rez for me.<br/><br/>One possibility is give druids an OOC rez but every time it's used, it resets the timer on Rebirth to 30mins. To prevent any "exploitation" on the druids behalf. Magna: “I’d bring up prot pallies (Which aren’t bad for 5 mans!), but if anyone is going to die, it’s probably the tank so that’s sort of a bad idea.”

My husband is a protection paladin and I’ve been lucky in having him tank for me. He never dies (ofc he’s one of our MT’s for the guild) if anyone dies in our 5 mans usually it’s either suicidal dps or me :) But he takes care of the OOC rez for me.

One possibility is give druids an OOC rez but every time it’s used, it resets the timer on Rebirth to 30mins. To prevent any “exploitation” on the druids behalf.

]]> By: jeff http://www.resto4life.com/2007/09/26/rebirth-cooldown-to-be-reduced-to-20-minutes/comment-page-1/#comment-523 jeff Thu, 27 Sep 2007 18:57:00 +0000 http://www.resto4life.com/index.php/2007/09/26/rebirth-cooldown-to-be-reduced-to-20-minutes/#comment-523 Keep up the good fight! We druids need resurrection parity!!!!<br/><br/>I agree and have been struggling, fighting, sulking over this issue ever since BC came out. That's when the absence of OOC rez became strikingly noticeable.<br/><br/>For the horde! Keep up the good fight! We druids need resurrection parity!!!!

I agree and have been struggling, fighting, sulking over this issue ever since BC came out. That’s when the absence of OOC rez became strikingly noticeable.

For the horde!

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.resto4life.com/2007/09/26/rebirth-cooldown-to-be-reduced-to-20-minutes/comment-page-1/#comment-522 Anonymous Thu, 27 Sep 2007 18:14:00 +0000 http://www.resto4life.com/index.php/2007/09/26/rebirth-cooldown-to-be-reduced-to-20-minutes/#comment-522 Whatever happened to the idea that Tree of Life would get OOC rez, Moonkin would get an indoors Root, and only caster form could BRez? Whatever happened to the idea that Tree of Life would get OOC rez, Moonkin would get an indoors Root, and only caster form could BRez?

]]> By: Phaelia http://www.resto4life.com/2007/09/26/rebirth-cooldown-to-be-reduced-to-20-minutes/comment-page-1/#comment-521 Phaelia Thu, 27 Sep 2007 17:05:00 +0000 http://www.resto4life.com/index.php/2007/09/26/rebirth-cooldown-to-be-reduced-to-20-minutes/#comment-521 @Magna: Thank you for sharing your thoughts. You make some pretty good points. Not being able to resurrect isn't a problem if your group composition is flexible enough to bring along a non-healing specced Paladin or Shaman or Priest. The downside is that these offspecs are often less optimal in more difficult instances where you need as many forms of crowd control as you can muster. Yes, you almost always have room to fit one of these off-specced healers in, but that isn't to say that one will always be available (we have all of one Shadow Priest in my guild, no offspec Shamans, and the offspec Paladins are all Prot-specced). None of the other healers have to worry with such a restriction.<br/><br/>And yes, it is nice to get a break when your raid wipes, but I don't think that's a very good reason to argue against being able to provide the resurrection service to your falling guildmates. =) I would love to be able to help lighten the load on Priests, Shamans, and Paladins. @Magna: Thank you for sharing your thoughts. You make some pretty good points. Not being able to resurrect isn’t a problem if your group composition is flexible enough to bring along a non-healing specced Paladin or Shaman or Priest. The downside is that these offspecs are often less optimal in more difficult instances where you need as many forms of crowd control as you can muster. Yes, you almost always have room to fit one of these off-specced healers in, but that isn’t to say that one will always be available (we have all of one Shadow Priest in my guild, no offspec Shamans, and the offspec Paladins are all Prot-specced). None of the other healers have to worry with such a restriction.

And yes, it is nice to get a break when your raid wipes, but I don’t think that’s a very good reason to argue against being able to provide the resurrection service to your falling guildmates. =) I would love to be able to help lighten the load on Priests, Shamans, and Paladins.

]]> By: Magna http://www.resto4life.com/2007/09/26/rebirth-cooldown-to-be-reduced-to-20-minutes/comment-page-1/#comment-520 Magna Thu, 27 Sep 2007 16:31:00 +0000 http://www.resto4life.com/index.php/2007/09/26/rebirth-cooldown-to-be-reduced-to-20-minutes/#comment-520 Also, as far as druids not having a "conventional" res, here's my take.<br/><br/>First off, it's undeniable, in the great scheme of things Battle Rez is much stronger than a normal ooc rez, maybe discounting arena. Let's all agree on this at least, Battle Rez is REALLY GOOD.<br/><br/>Second, maybe I was just really lucky when I was doing all my 5man junk and heroic grinding, but I almost always had another resser there. (of course no one ever died with me there, but hypothetically if they did we'd have been good.) Let's not forget how good Enhancement and Elemental shamans are and how good Shadow Priests are. There's no unwritten rule that the healer HAS to be the resser. Putting arenas aside, there's no real dire need for a ooc rez for Druids. Would it be nice? Sure. But EVERY class that can ooc rez has multiple, viable, roles in a group.<br/><br/>I'd bring up prot pallies (Which aren't bad for 5 mans!), but if anyone is going to die, it's probably the tank so that's sort of a bad idea.<br/><br/>Also in raiding not having an OOC rez is great 'cause you get to go get a drink when you wipe.<br/><br/>As was brought up here, I think the only place Druids are at a key disadvantage in not having an OOC rez is in arenas. But, from my experience and from people I know who arena far more hardcore than I(More of a PvE only player here), ooc rezzes in arenas, especially high ranked ones, don't happen too often. It's a disadvantage, but a minor one. Also, as far as druids not having a “conventional” res, here’s my take.

First off, it’s undeniable, in the great scheme of things Battle Rez is much stronger than a normal ooc rez, maybe discounting arena. Let’s all agree on this at least, Battle Rez is REALLY GOOD.

Second, maybe I was just really lucky when I was doing all my 5man junk and heroic grinding, but I almost always had another resser there. (of course no one ever died with me there, but hypothetically if they did we’d have been good.) Let’s not forget how good Enhancement and Elemental shamans are and how good Shadow Priests are. There’s no unwritten rule that the healer HAS to be the resser. Putting arenas aside, there’s no real dire need for a ooc rez for Druids. Would it be nice? Sure. But EVERY class that can ooc rez has multiple, viable, roles in a group.

I’d bring up prot pallies (Which aren’t bad for 5 mans!), but if anyone is going to die, it’s probably the tank so that’s sort of a bad idea.

Also in raiding not having an OOC rez is great ’cause you get to go get a drink when you wipe.

As was brought up here, I think the only place Druids are at a key disadvantage in not having an OOC rez is in arenas. But, from my experience and from people I know who arena far more hardcore than I(More of a PvE only player here), ooc rezzes in arenas, especially high ranked ones, don’t happen too often. It’s a disadvantage, but a minor one.

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