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Published on August 31, 2007 by Phaelia
Analysis, Obsolete
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This article became obsolete as of Patch 2.4. For Spirit and MP5 comparisons relevant as of 2.4, please see 2.4 Mana Regen - Part 1: The Basics and 2.4 Mana Regen - Part 2: The Mana Regen Calculator.


Within each class, the playerbase debates different game mechanics. Rogues debate Mutilate vs. Hemorrhage. Mages debate Fire vs. Arcane. Warlocks argue about whether they'd like their Fel Fire of Ultimate Win to be green or red. And for Restoration Druids, we frequently argue about the value of Spirit relative to MP5.

According to WoWWiki's calculations Blizzard considers 1 mana per 5 equal in value to 2.5 Spirit. That means, for the same item budget, you could get 100 MP5 or 250 Spirit. Which would you rather have? Let's look at each stat individually to shore up your rationale (whatever it might be).

What Spirit Does

From the official site, Spirit is described as the stat that:

Increases Health regeneration rates out of combat and Mana regeneration rates when not casting spells.

Sounds pretty good. More mana means more healing, right? Sort of. Not all classes benefit from Spirit in the same way. Some classes benefit more than we do from Spirit (like the Priest - boo! hiss!) and some classes — such as the Warlock and Paladin — benefit far less (these classes are inferior and undeserving of our Innervate). Here's how it breaks down among the four healing classes:

Class Mana/Tick MP5 per Spirit
Druid (Caster, Tree, Moonkin) (SPI/4.5) + 15 0.555
Druid (Kitty, Bear) (SPI/5) + 15 0.5
Paladin (SPI/5) + 15 0.5
Priest (SPI/4) + 12.5 0.625
Shaman (SPI/5) + 17 0.5

As you can see, Priests regenerate the most mana for each point of Spirit, followed by Druids, followed by everyone else (including us when we shift into a Feral form). Interestingly, a Druid with the Living Spirit talent has mana regeneration per point of Spirit higher than that of Priests:

Class Mana/Tick MP5 per Spirit
Druid (Caster, Tree, Moonkin) (SPI/4.5) + 15 0.555
Druid with Living Spirit ((1.15 * SPI)/4.5) + 15 0.639
Priest (SPI/4) + 12.5 0.625

Spirit and the Five Second Rule

One of the biggest limitations of Spirit is that you only receive the benefit of its mana regeneration if you haven't cast a spell within the last 5 seconds. This is known as the "5-Second Rule" (5SR):

After a character expends mana in casting a spell, the effective amount of mana gained per tick from spirit-based regeneration becomes a ratio of the [the values listed above], for a period of 5 seconds.

The default percentage of mana regeneration within the 5SR is 0%. However, there are several talents and abilities that boost this value, including Priest Meditation and the Druid-equivalent Intensity. Both of these are 3-point talents that afford an additional 30% of mana regeneration "while casting" (i.e., inside the 5SR). Having three points in Intensity is a prerequisite for Nature's Swiftness so it's unlikely to find a Restoration Druid without it.

Class Mana/Tick MP5 per Spirit
Druid with Intensity 0.3 * ((SPI/4.5) + 15) 0.083
Druid with Intensity and Living Spirit 0.3 * (((1.15* SPI)/4.5) + 15) 0.096

There are also a few items which can boost your mana regeneration while casting, at least temporarily. Perhaps the most notable is the Bangle of Endless Blessings which has a chance to proc an additional 15% mana regeneration while casting for 15 seconds (at level 70):

Bangle of Endless Blessings
Binds when picked up
Unique-Equipped
Trinket
Requires Level 70
Equip: Your spell casts have a chance to allow [15 - max(PL - 70,0) / 2]% of your mana regeneration to continue while casting for 15 sec.
Use: Increases your Spirit by 130 for 20 sec. (2 Min Cooldown)

Of course, you already have one of these after reading the article on Getting the Most out of Innervate, right? And speaking of Innervate it's worth noting that since Innervate is based upon its recipients base mana regeneration (outside of the 5SR), the more Spirit the better. This also means that giving your Innervate to a Warlock is less efficient than to a Priest or another Druid (or to yourself).

For more information on mana regeneration and the 5 Second Rule, be sure to visit Egotistical Priest and Priestly Endeavors.

The Tree of Life Aura

With the release of the Burning Crusade (technically just before), Blizzard added new talents for all classes, among them the 41-point Restoration talent, Tree of Life:

Tree of LifeShapeshift
28% of base Mana
Instant cast
Transforms the Druid into the Tree of Life Form.  While in this form you increase healing received by 25% of your total Spirit for all party members within 45 yards, your movement speed is reduced by 20%, and you can only cast Swiftmend, Innervate, Nature's Swiftness, Rebirth, poison removing and healing over time spells, but the mana cost of these spells is reduced by 20%.

The act of shapeshifting frees the caster of Polymorph and Movement Impairing effects.

While in Tree of Life, a Druid causes all heal spells cast upon her party members to receive 0.25 points of +Healing for each point of Spirit she has. At 400 Spirit, that's 100 +Healing (115 with Living Spirit). (For more information about how the +Healing coefficient affects our spells, see Mystery No More: +Healing Explained.) In a 5-man instance, that's effectively 100-115 extra +Healing for the Druid since she won't be healing anyone outside of her party. In raids, this healing bonus generally only benefits one or more main tanks, assuming the Tree has been placed in the MT group and the dynamics of a given encounter allow for the form to be used.

Mana per Five Seconds (MP5)

This term is pretty self explanatory as how many points of mana you will regenerate within five seconds (2.5 ticks). While it's often used as an overall measure of a character's ability to regenerate mana, both in and outside of the Five Second Rule, it's also available as a pure statistic on many pieces of gear. Unlike Spirit, MP5 runs all the time, disregarding the 5SR altogether. Acquiring a new item that grants you 4 more MP5 than you had before will therefore increase your mana regeneration while casting and while not by 4. There isn't much more to describe about MP5 since it's a pretty straightforward stat.

Spirit vs. MP5

According to WoWWiki.com, each point of MP5 is valued equal to 2.5 points of SPI. How much each is actually worth to you personally, however, depends on how much time you spend inside the 5SR. The more time spent outside the 5SR, the more beneficial Spirit is. More time spent "casting" increases the value of MP5 relative to Spirit. A good way to determine how much time you spend inside the 5SR is to run a UI addon like RegenFu (Ace2, FuBar required), which not only summarizes the amount of time spent inside the 5SR by each fight, but also calculates the relative value of Spirit to MP5 for that specific encounter. It is a more significant relative measure on boss fights than for trash when raiding since it's more rare to run out of mana on trash.

Sample Data from RegenFu

WoWWiki.com includes an incredibly useful article on Mana Regeneration formulas (albeit, based upon Priests) that we can adapt to determining the relative values of MP5 and Spirit for Druids. Adjusting the formula to account for Druids' slightly lower base mana regen:

Spirit required to match 1 MP5 =

Applying the above formula, we can derive a graph of the amount of Spirit required to equal MP5 based upon the amount of time spent within the Five Second Rule, both with and without Innervate*. Rather than only evaluating mana regeneration from Spirit at the new 30% Intensity, I also calculated it at the previous 15% for comparison's sake. Once again, I've graphed it over the % time spent within the Five Second Rule and according to the use of the following talents and abilities:

  • Intensity (both 2.2 and 2.3 versions)
  • Innervate
  • Living Spirit
  • Possible combinations of the above

Here's the graph of the new Intensity vs. the old Intensity. Future values are shown in a darker shade of the plots of their current values (eg. Red for "2.3 Living Spirit + Innervate", pink for the current value.

From this graph, note the following:

  • With 2.2 Intensity, you would need to be inside the 5SR (considered casting) no more than 32.5% of the time for the value of Spirit relative to MP5 to match that which is currently budgeted by Blizzard. With 2.3 Intensity, that number is increased to 40%. With Living Spirit, the number increases from 45% to 53%. With Intensity and Innervate, the number increases from 62.5% to 78%. With Living Spirit, Intensity, and Innervate, the number goes from 75% to 92.5%.
  • Assuming a Druid has both Intensity and is using her Innervate at every opportunity, the changes to Intensity with Patch 2.3 will make the value of Spirit much more closely match that currently being assigned in Item Values, especially if she is able to remain outside the 5SR 22% or more of the time.
  • Even if you were always within the 5SR (Lifebloom maintenance) and assuming you are using Innervate at every opportunity, 1 MP5 will be approximately worth 3.1 Spirit (down from 4.3 prior to Patch 2.3). With Living Spirit, 1MP5 is worth approximately 2.8 Spirit (down from 3.7 prior to Patch 2.3). That's an increase of value in Spirit by 28%, 24% if you factor in Living Spirit (the additional mana regenerated with Living Spirit is outweighed by the mana regenerated by Innervate so even though you will get a substantial increase, the rate of increase is not as high).

Factoring in Blessing of Kings

By popular request, I've added a graph that compares the valuation of Spirit relative to MP5 with Blessing of Kings, using the 2.3 value for Intensity (30% mana regeneration while casting). Non-BoK values are graphed in a lighter color than their BoK values and, as one might expect, the 1.1 factor on total Spirit causes each plot to shift slightly down:

Spirit vs. MP5 with BoK

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  • Gravatar Kirk

    Just a small naming error. You referred to priestly endeavors – my blog – but linked to Ego’s site — egotistical priest. Since every priest writes about this, I’ll do a smidge of self-promotion. Mine’s here

    3:31 am on 9/2/07
  • Gravatar Phaelia

    That’s the second time I’ve done that to Vonya. >.< Thank you for correcting me. =) Fixed – and thank you. I searched PE for a similar article but wasn’t able to find the one you shared.

    4:10 am on 9/2/07
  • Gravatar Kirk

    yeah, it’s a bad title. I probably need to set a better one – or a link. Thanks.

    3:15 pm on 9/2/07
  • Gravatar Matticus

    Was your second link supposed to go towards WoW Wiki’s section on spirit and Mp5? Just a heads up that it’s a self link back to the main page of your blog.

    Great read though. The only reason I haven’t done anything about Spirit and MP5 is that everyone else has already done and analyzed it to death.

    3:21 pm on 9/2/07
  • Gravatar Phaelia

    Thank you, Matticus. I sometimes code things in a hurry because I’m more concerned about getting my thoughts out, and those sorts of mistakes are popping up more and more often as a result.

    You’re right – Spirit vs. MP5 is a common topic, especially among healers. But I had not seen it analyzed from a Druid’s point of view before (which is somewhat different from that of a Priest). I also wanted to do the analysis for myself for when people ask the question on the forums. :-)

    4:26 pm on 9/2/07
  • Gravatar Kestrel

    Well, I have a priest, but no druid. However, I found your discussion very readable (maybe because I’m alone in the house at the moment, with zero chance of interruption, and I was able to really concentrate??).

    At any rate, even for a priest, a lot of good value here. Thanks!

    6:50 pm on 9/2/07
  • Gravatar Lassirra

    Great article! It’s mostly stuff I knew, but it definitely bears reading again. As I don’t play a caster, it’s not something I would generally spend time writing about, but I know there are a LOT of folks out there that don’t understand how to determine which they need more of: SPI or mp5. A definite Must Read for any caster, not just healers/druids! Nicely done! :D

    7:48 am on 9/3/07
  • Gravatar The Egotistical Priest

    Nicely done! I like your summary, too – it’s very unfortunate that we spend so much of our time inside the FSR – my priest in particular would love to weigh spirit higher than MP5.

    That bangle will be mine, though.

    Even though I don’t have a druid to Innervate me. *sniff*

    12:35 pm on 9/4/07
  • Gravatar Anonymous

    I’m curious to see how all of that changes when Intensity changes to 10%/20%/30%.

    Source: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1778587320&postId=19994013563&sid=1#1

    9:25 am on 10/4/07
  • Gravatar Paw

    Don’t forget Kings! I always multiply Spirit by 1.265 when calculating item values. Oh, and Priests can increase their Spirit through talents too!

    5% Enlightenment
    5% Spirit of Redemption

    It *is* possible to get both for a total of 10% more Spirit, however you’d have to miss out on Spiritual Guidance, so it’s a very unlikely spec.

    2:22 am on 11/2/07
  • Gravatar Phaelia

    @Paw: I’ve added the valuation of Spirit vs. MP5 with and without Blessing of Kings to the Revaluing Spirit article (which also includes values for Spirit at the 2.3 value of Intensity).

    9:00 am on 11/2/07

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