In light of the paradigm shift where neither Tailoring or Leatherworking creates Bind on Pickup epics, here’s help deciding between the additional benefits of these two production tradeskills.
Force of Nature is the 41-Point Balance talent that’s popular to use against casters for the damage-based spell delay they can provide:
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Many Balance Druids complain, however, that the Treants summoned are often ineffectual since they can’t be directed via a pet bar like the one used by Frost Mages to control their Frost Elemental (as it is, you target someone and summon trees onto them). If your target dies before the 30 second duration has elapsed, they simply stand around looking like so much shrubbery, a rather disappointing outcome for a 41-point Balance talent.
Apparently, the talent is more than a little buggy. A Horde Moonkin summoned his trees onto me in Alterac Valley earlier this week. His little tree buddies proceeded to follow me around, not attacking, looking a lot like my own personal retinue of plantlife. I’d like to think that it was poetic justice for one Druid attacking another (Why would trees want to hurt me? After all, I’m a Tree, too!), but that’s easy for me to say since I’m specced Restoration and the extent of my “attacks” can be summed up as “Moonfire Spam.”
I love you, you love me, we’re a happy group of Trees …
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Unfortunately many a balance druid has killed my parter or me with this skillful combo:
Trees out on someone
Moonfire
Moonfire
Moonfire
Moonfire
Moonfire
Moonfire
Moonfire
Moonfire
Moonfire
Moonfire
Moonfire
Moonfire
/chicken dance
On a serious note, those things attack DAMN fast and make getting off a (non instant) cast very difficult. They also do a decent amount of damage (seems like they each hit leather for ~150 every 1 to 1.5 sec) Unfortunately an AE or really any damage whatsoever kills em. I say give my balance bretheren some control over the trees… at least over whom they attack.
-Fleet
Synneth made an excellent post on the European forums about some of the issues with Force of Nature. I would love to be able to assign the trees to a specific target the way others can with their pets/elementals. Here’s hoping the devs consider it when looking at moonkin for the next expansion.
I love the blog by the way, thanks for your intelligent druid analysis.
Traxus @ Black Dragonflight
Druid Healers are fortunate that we have so many insta-cast heals (Lifebloom, Rejuvenation, Swiftmend, Nature’s Swiftness + Whatever) so summoning FoN on us is actually kind of silly, at least in a large-scale PvP environment where they would be better focused on someone whose spells take time to cast. I won’t complain, though. =)
And thanks for pointing me to that thread, Traxus. I was looking for something along those lines to include as additional information for that article. I’m really impressed with Synneth’s evaluation of our class as a whole. After all, she was the writer who provoked so many thoughtful responses from European CMs. I hope you continue reading. =)
Against Rogues the combo is:
Trees
FF
Moonfire
Moonfire
Moonfire
Moonfire
Moonfire
Moonfire
Moonfire etc.
/chicken dance
FF keeps the little buggars from disapearing on you right before you’re about to kill’em.
Against spell dealers the combo is:
Trees
Insect Swarm
Moonfire
Moonfire
Moonfire
Moonfire
Moonfire
Moonfire
Moonfire etc.
/chicken dance
Against Priests & Pally’s:
Trees
ISW
Bear form and hope to outlast their mana pool.
Moonfire
Moonfire
Moonfire
Moonfire
Moonfire
However, I usually end up having my body danced upon by these classes.
I love the post, my favorite bit is the picture at the end….. LOL!
As a fellow Tree Druid versed in PVP, I love running into random Balance Druids who have their Trees out—I go into Tree form and start autoattacking with the pack.
Great blog btw.
Pesce: Is there a way to get after a Rogue once she’s Vanished? Between that and CloS, I can never manage to finish one off (admittedly, my 600 point Wrath doesn’t help). Maybe Hurricane? Kinda expensive, but I swear it would be worth it 90% of the time. =P
B3 (bigbearbutt): Thank you. =) I hope they’re the right color; I wasn’t sure if the FoN trees looked more green (and therefore, more alive) than Tree of Life in all its autumn glory.
Megan: That is a great idea and one I’ll have to try. =) Do you ever get Arcane Explosioned as a result?
AE’d? Sure. But the biggest pain is Blast Wave.. can we say Forest Fire?
Phaelia, I have not found a way to catch a rogue once they’ve vanished (except spin in circles and wait for the inevitable backstab). I have not tried hurricaning, but it seems like a reasonable approach. I’ll give it a shot and see what happens.
Hmmmm … I wonder.
Do you suppose that Demoralizing Roar (the Bear ability) would break stealth? If you were being attacked by a Rogue, it’s likely that switched to Bear form. If you could immediately DR when they vanish, I wonder if it would pull them out of it since it’s an AE ability. I’ll have to test this with my Rogue buddy and share the results!
Last time I checked, DR still does pull rogues out of stealth, just as warriors Demo shout does. However, by the time you shift, and roar, a good rogue will be out of range, just for that reason. Easiest way to keep them from vanishing: Lacerate. Since against a rogue you are most likely going to be in bear form some/most of the time, just keep a lacerate up. The bleed is not removed by CloS, and will pop them back out after a vanish.
Ohhh … Lacerate. Great idea!