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	<title>Comments on: Mystery No More: +Healing Explained</title>
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		<title>By: Phaelia</title>
		<link>http://www.resto4life.com/2007/07/09/mystery-no-more-healing-explained/comment-page-1/#comment-4114</link>
		<dc:creator>Phaelia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 03:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Gidget: I think I&#039;ve fixed the link to the spreadsheet above. Sorry about that. Some servers can be more finicky than others in terms of case sensitivity for file names. =)

As for a spreadsheet designed to tell you tick amounts, I believe that the updated version of RestoCalc from HealerLFG might be helpful: http://www.healerlfg.com/index.php/restocalc/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Gidget: I think I&#8217;ve fixed the link to the spreadsheet above. Sorry about that. Some servers can be more finicky than others in terms of case sensitivity for file names. =)</p>
<p>As for a spreadsheet designed to tell you tick amounts, I believe that the updated version of RestoCalc from HealerLFG might be helpful: <a href="http://www.healerlfg.com/index.php/restocalc/" rel="nofollow">http://www.healerlfg.com/index.php/restocalc/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Gidget</title>
		<link>http://www.resto4life.com/2007/07/09/mystery-no-more-healing-explained/comment-page-1/#comment-4078</link>
		<dc:creator>Gidget</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 20:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yaya, i know, posting in an old topic ftl... but... I tried to DL your excel sheet to see if it was what i was looking for, but it has since been taken down /cry...
I kinda suck at math and theorycrafting, but now that my guild and I are getting into the heirachy of raiding and such (we are working on Supremus atm, full kara/ZA clears, 1 boss left in both TK and SSC, 3 left in Hyjal) the amount of gear upgrades is someone lacking for now. I want to get the best possible upgrade for my money... or dkp if you will. I was hoping you or anyone out there knew of a good site/spreadsheet/calculator where i could put in item stats and my dolls base stats and it tell me just how much my spells will tick for. I know, I know. This is like asking Blizzard to give us OOC rezzes, but hey, i&#039;m hopeful! /wink</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yaya, i know, posting in an old topic ftl&#8230; but&#8230; I tried to DL your excel sheet to see if it was what i was looking for, but it has since been taken down /cry&#8230;<br />
I kinda suck at math and theorycrafting, but now that my guild and I are getting into the heirachy of raiding and such (we are working on Supremus atm, full kara/ZA clears, 1 boss left in both TK and SSC, 3 left in Hyjal) the amount of gear upgrades is someone lacking for now. I want to get the best possible upgrade for my money&#8230; or dkp if you will. I was hoping you or anyone out there knew of a good site/spreadsheet/calculator where i could put in item stats and my dolls base stats and it tell me just how much my spells will tick for. I know, I know. This is like asking Blizzard to give us OOC rezzes, but hey, i&#8217;m hopeful! /wink</p>
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		<title>By: Angus Meat-shield &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Something for the masses</title>
		<link>http://www.resto4life.com/2007/07/09/mystery-no-more-healing-explained/comment-page-1/#comment-2753</link>
		<dc:creator>Angus Meat-shield &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Something for the masses</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:49:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] more of a reveresed Regrowth so it should have the same mixed coefficient as listed in Phae&#8217;s Mystery No More: +Healing Explained, so if this corrects it to that, then I&#8217;m all for it; otherwise it&#8217;s a completely [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] more of a reveresed Regrowth so it should have the same mixed coefficient as listed in Phae&#8217;s Mystery No More: +Healing Explained, so if this corrects it to that, then I&#8217;m all for it; otherwise it&#8217;s a completely [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Falina</title>
		<link>http://www.resto4life.com/2007/07/09/mystery-no-more-healing-explained/comment-page-1/#comment-1995</link>
		<dc:creator>Falina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 17:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice work, I&#039;ve been playing a resto drood for a year and always used tree of life, we had some droods who used dreamstate in our raids before and they never could get near the amount of healing i was doing in tree form, i strongly believe it is not only data and plus helaing that makes you a good healer, it&#039;s your general healing strat / hotkey setup / multi-taskign abilities that make you a better healer, i used to complain about the lack of speed and the decurse/poison removal in tree form until i realized that all you have to do even if it&#039;s a pain is to build a macro to shapeshift during boss fights, which is very very useful/necessary when u start doing Serpentshrine, TK, Hyjal and BT. I&#039;ve even sahpeshifted into bear form on occasions where i pulled aggro and it saved my life many times. In one word, droods are hybrids and you should learn to play them as hybrids to truly enjoy the class.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice work, I&#8217;ve been playing a resto drood for a year and always used tree of life, we had some droods who used dreamstate in our raids before and they never could get near the amount of healing i was doing in tree form, i strongly believe it is not only data and plus helaing that makes you a good healer, it&#8217;s your general healing strat / hotkey setup / multi-taskign abilities that make you a better healer, i used to complain about the lack of speed and the decurse/poison removal in tree form until i realized that all you have to do even if it&#8217;s a pain is to build a macro to shapeshift during boss fights, which is very very useful/necessary when u start doing Serpentshrine, TK, Hyjal and BT. I&#8217;ve even sahpeshifted into bear form on occasions where i pulled aggro and it saved my life many times. In one word, droods are hybrids and you should learn to play them as hybrids to truly enjoy the class.</p>
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		<title>By: Phaelia</title>
		<link>http://www.resto4life.com/2007/07/09/mystery-no-more-healing-explained/comment-page-1/#comment-1497</link>
		<dc:creator>Phaelia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 22:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Pattymelt: I&#039;m really glad that you were able to find some use from this article! I&#039;ve since realized that some of the assumptions around which the calculations are based are slightly off and so it&#039;s not part of my &quot;Guides&quot; section any longer, but I believe there is still quite a bit of information of merit here. I&#039;m happy you think so, too!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Pattymelt: I&#8217;m really glad that you were able to find some use from this article! I&#8217;ve since realized that some of the assumptions around which the calculations are based are slightly off and so it&#8217;s not part of my &#8220;Guides&#8221; section any longer, but I believe there is still quite a bit of information of merit here. I&#8217;m happy you think so, too!</p>
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		<title>By: Pattymelt</title>
		<link>http://www.resto4life.com/2007/07/09/mystery-no-more-healing-explained/comment-page-1/#comment-1480</link>
		<dc:creator>Pattymelt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 00:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve come to this post late, but I wanted to thank you for it all the same. I&#039;ve been hungry for just this sort of analysis with my newly resto-specced drood, and this helps immensely.  

Cheers,
Pattymelt
Drenden</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve come to this post late, but I wanted to thank you for it all the same. I&#8217;ve been hungry for just this sort of analysis with my newly resto-specced drood, and this helps immensely.  </p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Pattymelt<br />
Drenden</p>
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		<title>By: Aiuriun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aiuriun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 21:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Erica,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;While I understand your standing, there is still one major consideration when talking about druid forms and that is usage. We don&#039;t get stealth in bear form and likewise we don&#039;t get the stamina bonus in cat form. If ToL is meant as a -primary- healing form then why not have access to -all- of a resto druid&#039;s healing arsenal? &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;While there isn&#039;t much poison cleansing required there are a few moments where it is required. The same goes for buffing, especially if that is supposed to be considered a primarily resto job. Now for decursing, there isn&#039;t always a mage available. While you can assume there would be one in a raid setting, that isn&#039;t always the case in a 5 man. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I realize that we&#039;re a hybrid class and I&#039;m not asking for a shield like priests or anything like that(although a leaf shield would be cool). However, we are given tools to tank and dps as good or better than warriors, paladins, and rogues so why then should we be denied otherwise primary and already available class skills if the largely accepted role of a druid is to heal?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erica,</p>
<p>While I understand your standing, there is still one major consideration when talking about druid forms and that is usage. We don&#8217;t get stealth in bear form and likewise we don&#8217;t get the stamina bonus in cat form. If ToL is meant as a -primary- healing form then why not have access to -all- of a resto druid&#8217;s healing arsenal? </p>
<p>While there isn&#8217;t much poison cleansing required there are a few moments where it is required. The same goes for buffing, especially if that is supposed to be considered a primarily resto job. Now for decursing, there isn&#8217;t always a mage available. While you can assume there would be one in a raid setting, that isn&#8217;t always the case in a 5 man. </p>
<p>I realize that we&#8217;re a hybrid class and I&#8217;m not asking for a shield like priests or anything like that(although a leaf shield would be cool). However, we are given tools to tank and dps as good or better than warriors, paladins, and rogues so why then should we be denied otherwise primary and already available class skills if the largely accepted role of a druid is to heal?</p>
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		<title>By: Phaelia</title>
		<link>http://www.resto4life.com/2007/07/09/mystery-no-more-healing-explained/comment-page-1/#comment-72</link>
		<dc:creator>Phaelia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 21:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Erica,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Thank you for your comments. While it is true that Tree of Life will influence the numbers in this analysis (slightly increasing the HPM of the HoTs available to you and VERY slightly increasing the HPS of those HoTs), the key thing to consider is the still quite low HPS of these spells, even when used in conjunction with one another. Tree of Life has its uses for certain -- its inherent longevity due to high HPM/low HPS spells being one of them -- but it is my opinion that you lose much a tremendous amount of versatility when you choose to spec this way. There are simply better talents available to you through the Balance tree (ones that simulate Tree of Life for all spells and do not impose the unnecessary restrictions of our healing form). &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;While it is true that Mages can (and sometimes do) assist with decursing, it&#039;s hard to argue that -- time, mana, ability permitting -- this is a role better handled by healers. Mages who decurse are not DPSing whereas the healing remaining to be done to a raid will remain even after a druid has cast her decurse spell. And this is only in a raid scenario. You will often find yourself in groups where you are the only person capable of removing poisons or curses. Why should our 41-point healing form be thus invalidated?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I do appreciate all of the concerns you mention. They point out the individual issues that I will attempt to address in a future post which &lt;i&gt;will&lt;/i&gt; directly address the Tree of Life form and will feature the math you are looking for. This article alone took 4 days to write and is rather extensive; I made the decision to separate discussion of Tree of Life into its own article &#8212; which I&#039;m sure you&#039;d agree &#8212; it richly deserves!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erica,</p>
<p>Thank you for your comments. While it is true that Tree of Life will influence the numbers in this analysis (slightly increasing the HPM of the HoTs available to you and VERY slightly increasing the HPS of those HoTs), the key thing to consider is the still quite low HPS of these spells, even when used in conjunction with one another. Tree of Life has its uses for certain &#8212; its inherent longevity due to high HPM/low HPS spells being one of them &#8212; but it is my opinion that you lose much a tremendous amount of versatility when you choose to spec this way. There are simply better talents available to you through the Balance tree (ones that simulate Tree of Life for all spells and do not impose the unnecessary restrictions of our healing form). </p>
<p>While it is true that Mages can (and sometimes do) assist with decursing, it&#8217;s hard to argue that &#8212; time, mana, ability permitting &#8212; this is a role better handled by healers. Mages who decurse are not DPSing whereas the healing remaining to be done to a raid will remain even after a druid has cast her decurse spell. And this is only in a raid scenario. You will often find yourself in groups where you are the only person capable of removing poisons or curses. Why should our 41-point healing form be thus invalidated?</p>
<p>I do appreciate all of the concerns you mention. They point out the individual issues that I will attempt to address in a future post which <i>will</i> directly address the Tree of Life form and will feature the math you are looking for. This article alone took 4 days to write and is rather extensive; I made the decision to separate discussion of Tree of Life into its own article &mdash; which I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;d agree &mdash; it richly deserves!</p>
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		<title>By: erica van ostrand</title>
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		<dc:creator>erica van ostrand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 20:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i forgot to add; also rarely in raids will people assign you as a tree druid to decurse when a mage could do it so much more easily.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;They shouldn&#039;t be asking you to decurse in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i forgot to add; also rarely in raids will people assign you as a tree druid to decurse when a mage could do it so much more easily.</p>
<p>They shouldn&#8217;t be asking you to decurse in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: erica van ostrand</title>
		<link>http://www.resto4life.com/2007/07/09/mystery-no-more-healing-explained/comment-page-1/#comment-70</link>
		<dc:creator>erica van ostrand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 20:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if you didn&#039;t include tree of life in your comparisons, then the healing comparisons are pretty much worthless.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;As to your comment about the usefulness of TOL, TOL can and should be used 95% of the time.  Rarely in BC do you actually have to abolish poison that you can&#039;t heal over very easily.  However, that is another discussion in and of itself.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;To compare one build or even just comparing HT to lifebloom, rejuv, etc without including all the appropriate talents...doesn&#039;t make any sense.   &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;If you&#039;re going to exclude  talents; exclude them all or include them all; or your numbers are completely inaccurate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if you didn&#8217;t include tree of life in your comparisons, then the healing comparisons are pretty much worthless.  </p>
<p>As to your comment about the usefulness of TOL, TOL can and should be used 95% of the time.  Rarely in BC do you actually have to abolish poison that you can&#8217;t heal over very easily.  However, that is another discussion in and of itself.</p>
<p>To compare one build or even just comparing HT to lifebloom, rejuv, etc without including all the appropriate talents&#8230;doesn&#8217;t make any sense.   </p>
<p>If you&#8217;re going to exclude  talents; exclude them all or include them all; or your numbers are completely inaccurate.</p>
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