Comments on: Out of Combat Resurrection http://www.resto4life.com/2007/05/14/out-of-combat-resurrection/ So many numbers, you'll think you're getting audited Thu, 16 Feb 2012 06:30:53 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Phaelia http://www.resto4life.com/2007/05/14/out-of-combat-resurrection/comment-page-1/#comment-3668 Phaelia Wed, 07 May 2008 00:18:52 +0000 http://www.resto4life.com/index.php/2007/05/14/out-of-combat-resurrection/#comment-3668 @Jeddak: Heck, I'd be happy to drop FIVE points into it ... as long as those 5 points were on Tier 1 of the Restoration tree as an alternative to Improved Mark of the Wild! And thanks for the compliment - it's great to have you as a reader! @Jeddak: Heck, I’d be happy to drop FIVE points into it … as long as those 5 points were on Tier 1 of the Restoration tree as an alternative to Improved Mark of the Wild! And thanks for the compliment – it’s great to have you as a reader!

]]> By: Jeddak http://www.resto4life.com/2007/05/14/out-of-combat-resurrection/comment-page-1/#comment-3664 Jeddak Tue, 06 May 2008 20:23:32 +0000 http://www.resto4life.com/index.php/2007/05/14/out-of-combat-resurrection/#comment-3664 I also am frustrated by my inability to res party members at will. Perhaps we could view a battle res as an offset to healing through HoTs where we sometimes have difficulty keeping up with burst damage. This idea of a non-CD res unbalancing classes makes little sense to me - does giving portals to a mage make them unfair? Not really, it's a class perk and has little to do with combat (aside from repair runs mid-instance). If we need to give something up for a full res, make me drop a talent point into it - I wouldn't mind. Or maybe make it a 20sec cast. I just don't enjoy not being able to finish an instance where it takes a long time to go anywhere because we're waiting for a single downed member to run back. Keep up the good work on this blog :) I also am frustrated by my inability to res party members at will. Perhaps we could view a battle res as an offset to healing through HoTs where we sometimes have difficulty keeping up with burst damage. This idea of a non-CD res unbalancing classes makes little sense to me – does giving portals to a mage make them unfair? Not really, it’s a class perk and has little to do with combat (aside from repair runs mid-instance). If we need to give something up for a full res, make me drop a talent point into it – I wouldn’t mind. Or maybe make it a 20sec cast. I just don’t enjoy not being able to finish an instance where it takes a long time to go anywhere because we’re waiting for a single downed member to run back. Keep up the good work on this blog :)

]]> By: Phaelia http://www.resto4life.com/2007/05/14/out-of-combat-resurrection/comment-page-1/#comment-3332 Phaelia Wed, 09 Apr 2008 16:40:58 +0000 http://www.resto4life.com/index.php/2007/05/14/out-of-combat-resurrection/#comment-3332 @Amandine: I wouldn't let the need of a rezzer dictate the class that you choose to play. After all, a Mage can prevent a good number of wipes by providing good crowd control. :-) @Amandine: I wouldn’t let the need of a rezzer dictate the class that you choose to play. After all, a Mage can prevent a good number of wipes by providing good crowd control. :-)

]]> By: Amandine http://www.resto4life.com/2007/05/14/out-of-combat-resurrection/comment-page-1/#comment-3323 Amandine Wed, 09 Apr 2008 07:38:10 +0000 http://www.resto4life.com/index.php/2007/05/14/out-of-combat-resurrection/#comment-3323 Some friends and I are are leveling up a group of 4 to instance our way around Azeroth together. Issy, who is going to be healer for this group wants to heal as a resto druid, our others are going to be a hunter and a warrior tank. Now, I have a mage and a shaman at the right level to put into this group but I fear it'll be the shaman I put in just for the sake of having a rezzer. This could be a lay over of our main group (two pallies and two priests) which is a little bit overflowing with rezzers. Some friends and I are are leveling up a group of 4 to instance our way around Azeroth together. Issy, who is going to be healer for this group wants to heal as a resto druid, our others are going to be a hunter and a warrior tank. Now, I have a mage and a shaman at the right level to put into this group but I fear it’ll be the shaman I put in just for the sake of having a rezzer. This could be a lay over of our main group (two pallies and two priests) which is a little bit overflowing with rezzers.

]]> By: Shinano http://www.resto4life.com/2007/05/14/out-of-combat-resurrection/comment-page-1/#comment-3024 Shinano Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:51:44 +0000 http://www.resto4life.com/index.php/2007/05/14/out-of-combat-resurrection/#comment-3024 I heartily agree with Phae here, AND her suggestion for a fix - make OOC rezzing a deep Resto talent. I just think it should be deeper into the Resto tree than 21 points. No offense to our Dreamstate cousins, but I see an OOC Rez as the ultimate "gift" for those of us who invest so heavily into Resto to be the best healer we can, that we completely gimp oursleves for anything else. Your mileage, of course, may vary. I heartily agree with Phae here, AND her suggestion for a fix – make OOC rezzing a deep Resto talent. I just think it should be deeper into the Resto tree than 21 points. No offense to our Dreamstate cousins, but I see an OOC Rez as the ultimate “gift” for those of us who invest so heavily into Resto to be the best healer we can, that we completely gimp oursleves for anything else.

Your mileage, of course, may vary.

]]> By: Orc Shaman http://www.resto4life.com/2007/05/14/out-of-combat-resurrection/comment-page-1/#comment-1421 Orc Shaman Tue, 20 Nov 2007 15:18:47 +0000 http://www.resto4life.com/index.php/2007/05/14/out-of-combat-resurrection/#comment-1421 Tricky one this. I understand your pain - the "sorry, we're looking for a rezzer" thing sucks. However I think it's an important piece of class balance - if druids had both in and out of combat resses then suddenly priests would become the unwanted healer (for not having a wipe protection / combat res). I've been in groups before where the only dead guy after a hard fight was me, the healer, and our druid tank (rightly) didn't want to use his combat res so I had to corpse run. Or, to put it another way, you can have an ooc res if I can have stealth. Edit: Re. "Many ferals have expressed reticence at being given access to a spell that would force them into the role of a healer post raid wipe (helping with resurrection)" - these selfish idiots should be raid kicked. That's an unbelievable position to take! I'd certainly expect shadowpriests / dps shaman / etc, to help with the ressing after a wipe. Tricky one this. I understand your pain – the “sorry, we’re looking for a rezzer” thing sucks. However I think it’s an important piece of class balance – if druids had both in and out of combat resses then suddenly priests would become the unwanted healer (for not having a wipe protection / combat res). I’ve been in groups before where the only dead guy after a hard fight was me, the healer, and our druid tank (rightly) didn’t want to use his combat res so I had to corpse run.

Or, to put it another way, you can have an ooc res if I can have stealth.

Edit: Re. “Many ferals have expressed reticence at being given access to a spell that would force them into the role of a healer post raid wipe (helping with resurrection)” – these selfish idiots should be raid kicked. That’s an unbelievable position to take! I’d certainly expect shadowpriests / dps shaman / etc, to help with the ressing after a wipe.

]]> By: Scott http://www.resto4life.com/2007/05/14/out-of-combat-resurrection/comment-page-1/#comment-34 Scott Sun, 30 Sep 2007 17:21:00 +0000 http://www.resto4life.com/index.php/2007/05/14/out-of-combat-resurrection/#comment-34 I have been frustrated w/ not having an ooc res since a little after 1.8. There are quite a few ignorant druids out there that don't understand what it means to be self-sufficient. I've made the argument on the forums more then once. I think you stated most of the points I have before so all I can say is, I agree with you. I have been frustrated w/ not having an ooc res since a little after 1.8. There are quite a few ignorant druids out there that don’t understand what it means to be self-sufficient. I’ve made the argument on the forums more then once. I think you stated most of the points I have before so all I can say is, I agree with you.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.resto4life.com/2007/05/14/out-of-combat-resurrection/comment-page-1/#comment-33 Anonymous Sun, 16 Sep 2007 10:44:00 +0000 http://www.resto4life.com/index.php/2007/05/14/out-of-combat-resurrection/#comment-33 Actually looking at what Druitt said, <br/>A paladin can tank too... So lets take their rez away? Haha don't think thats going to happen (And to any non believers paladins make excellent tanks!).<br/>I'm all for druids having a "normal res". Even as feral, when you manage to kill that mob with poping a pot when your healer dies, you don't want to use that precious cooldown. <br/>Of course, Blizzard regarding healers anyway, seems to favour their own ideas...<br/><br/>Xaureen<br/>Lightning Blades (EU) Actually looking at what Druitt said,
A paladin can tank too… So lets take their rez away? Haha don’t think thats going to happen (And to any non believers paladins make excellent tanks!).
I’m all for druids having a “normal res”. Even as feral, when you manage to kill that mob with poping a pot when your healer dies, you don’t want to use that precious cooldown.
Of course, Blizzard regarding healers anyway, seems to favour their own ideas…

Xaureen
Lightning Blades (EU)

]]> By: Phaelia http://www.resto4life.com/2007/05/14/out-of-combat-resurrection/comment-page-1/#comment-32 Phaelia Tue, 04 Sep 2007 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.resto4life.com/index.php/2007/05/14/out-of-combat-resurrection/#comment-32 Sonix,<br/><br/>Thanks for your comments. This is an obvious solution to what should be an unnecessary problem. No one else has to deal with such limitations or prerequisites on their group composition — why should we? I don't think I should have to "make good friends" with anyone to fulfill my chosen role. I already have four good friends (none of whom have a rez spell) that I would like to bring with me! :-)<br/><br/>Regards,<br/>Phae Sonix,

Thanks for your comments. This is an obvious solution to what should be an unnecessary problem. No one else has to deal with such limitations or prerequisites on their group composition — why should we? I don’t think I should have to “make good friends” with anyone to fulfill my chosen role. I already have four good friends (none of whom have a rez spell) that I would like to bring with me! :-)

Regards,
Phae

]]> By: Philip http://www.resto4life.com/2007/05/14/out-of-combat-resurrection/comment-page-1/#comment-31 Philip Mon, 03 Sep 2007 23:20:00 +0000 http://www.resto4life.com/index.php/2007/05/14/out-of-combat-resurrection/#comment-31 Sonix (Blackrock) Alliance<br/><br/>Ok, to solve this problem:<br/>"sorry, we need a rezzer."<br/><br/>The best way to get around this is to firstly, create your own group and not go LFG! Secondly, the way I get myself around the "need a rezzer" is always take a shadow priest. Make good friends with a shadow priest who likes to instance and your problem is solved!<br/><br/>I hope this will help in anyway. Sonix (Blackrock) Alliance

Ok, to solve this problem:
“sorry, we need a rezzer.”

The best way to get around this is to firstly, create your own group and not go LFG! Secondly, the way I get myself around the “need a rezzer” is always take a shadow priest. Make good friends with a shadow priest who likes to instance and your problem is solved!

I hope this will help in anyway.

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